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Whew - I think that means I am in the clear - at least on that one. lol
 

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Mine Died but not on the list

I have a 2008 650. My stator died a few months ago (stranding me in the middle of the desert 50 miles from the nearest town - in the middle of the night!). And I feel like my R/R is not working properly either (maybe intermittently). But my bike is not on the list - and I do my own repairs, which means they probably wouldn't honor my reimbursement anyway based on their documentation requirements. While this is the only major issue on this bike in 100k miles, I'm still a doubly unhappy Trooper. Not enough to make me hate the bike, but enough to make me really pissed at Suzuki. The irony is that it would cost them less to reimburse home mechanics, since we shop for deals on parts and don't charge a markup...!!!
 

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I have a 2008 650. My stator died a few months ago (stranding me in the middle of the desert 50 miles from the nearest town - in the middle of the night!). And I feel like my R/R is not working properly either (maybe intermittently). But my bike is not on the list - and I do my own repairs, which means they probably wouldn't honor my reimbursement anyway based on their documentation requirements. While this is the only major issue on this bike in 100k miles, I'm still a doubly unhappy Trooper. Not enough to make me hate the bike, but enough to make me really pissed at Suzuki. The irony is that it would cost them less to reimburse home mechanics, since we shop for deals on parts and don't charge a markup...!!!
Install a waterproof digital voltmeter like so many of us already have done, you would've likely known there was an issue starting before you got stranded. :fineprint:
 

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Thanks VTom. 'rang dealer at Nerang and was told I'll get a letter from Suzuki if my DLA's one of the recalls, it's only certain DOMs.
 

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Interesting - I will now hold off on my regulator changeover.
I wonder if it's just a beefier stator or does it also involve a regulator change as well...
I doubt it would be a regulator, I am assuming they just recycling and rewinding the stators as they come in with thicker gauge.

Personally I'm in no hurry need to see how much bike draws now with lights and grips.

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I saw a picture of a late model replacement R/R somewhere. It has noticeably more insulation where the windings exited which is the typical burnout location. I doubt the copper is any different, The goal would be to prevent wires at that hot spot from contacting each other or ground.
 

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In the shop currently

2013 SV650 - 15,000 miles

My bike's currently in the shop for a burnt out stator. I used a portable jumper box to get me w/in 15 miles of home through the desert, 2 miles at time.

I asked the shop owner to order a replacement r/r as well. Parts alone are running me over $500. Since this is a known issue, it would be really nice for a recall to happen. So far my VIN hasn't shown up on suzuki's website.

Can anyone who's "been to the rodeo" before (this is my first motorcycle) advise as to how these things play out? That is, my replacement parts are on order; do I want to go through with the repairs ($$) and hope for a reimbursement or wait for Suzuki to make a move?

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2013 SV650 - 15,000 miles

My bike's currently in the shop for a burnt out stator. I used a portable jumper box to get me w/in 15 miles of home through the desert, 2 miles at time.

I asked the shop owner to order a replacement r/r as well. Parts alone are running me over $500. Since this is a known issue, it would be really nice for a recall to happen. So far my VIN hasn't shown up on suzuki's website.

Can anyone who's "been to the rodeo" before (this is my first motorcycle) advise as to how these things play out? That is, my replacement parts are on order; do I want to go through with the repairs ($$) and hope for a reimbursement or wait for Suzuki to make a move?

-Dave
I think it is up to you talking to the dealer, talk to him about going recall and persuade. If he cares about your business and wants a happy customer he will call Suzuki and help you. You would also have to be nice to him, potentially buying some stuff from.

You could also try to call Suzuki directly and ask for advice good luck.
 

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I doubt it would be a regulator, I am assuming they just recycling and rewinding the stators as they come in with thicker gauge.
Having dissected two stators (post-mortem exams), I can say there is no practial way to get copper losses down by putting more of it on the stator poles. If the wire was a larger diameter, fewer turns would fit, inductance would go down, and, for a shunt regulated system, current being shunted would go up. The net results is identical current density. (I've worked this problem because a rewind to cure or mitigate seems attractive, and I was sick to the gills of pulling bad stators off my bike which I otherwise like.) There is just no more room in the winding window (which is not rectangular) for more copper if using uniform diameter wire or practical winding technique. If you could somehow stack a few more turns toward the outside end of the poles, it would fit into the window, but keeping it there while winding would be a nightmare.

Personally I'm in no hurry need to see how much bike draws now with lights and grips.
? If you have a series regulator, definitely use LED headlights if running heated grips or other heated gear. (I thought you were in California. Did winter come there?)
 

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Having dissected two stators (post-mortem exams), I can say there is no practial way to get copper losses down by putting more of it on the stator poles. If the wire was a larger diameter, fewer turns would fit, inductance would go down, and, for a shunt regulated system, current being shunted would go up. The net results is identical current density. (I've worked this problem because a rewind to cure or mitigate seems attractive, and I was sick to the gills of pulling bad stators off my bike which I otherwise like.) There is just no more room in the winding window (which is not rectangular) for more copper if using uniform diameter wire or practical winding technique. If you could somehow stack a few more turns toward the outside end of the poles, it would fit into the window, but keeping it there while winding would be a nightmare.

? If you have a series regulator, definitely use LED headlights if running heated grips or other heated gear. (I thought you were in California. Did winter come there?)
I am on East coast it supposed to drop into 20s at night.

Yes I have LED auxiliary/headlights and heated grips.

Not sure what they will be doing but will be surprised if they don't collect and reuse stators, even if it is for scrap metal. As such it will be a staged rollout, that's why recall isn't posted yet. Or perhaps they want to optimize warehouse load?
 

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FYI - I just contacted my dealer he ran the Vin for my 2013 dl650 and it was in the recall. My stator died in June and i have been riding no more than a half hour away for the summer, because the battery would eventually die. Unfortunately, according to him, currently there is no replacement for the stator available. But, he will update me as soon as he has the guidance and replacement parts from Suzuki. He also said he was contacted by Suzuki about a week ago regarding the updated models to the recall.

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Ordered a volt meter today and I don't run any heated gear. Only accessory is a GPS., and some extra LEDs on tail light circuit. What should I look for on the volt meter? 1.0 volts higher with motor on than motor off? Thanks guys.
 

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Checked my vin on Suzuki's website tonight. My 2012 vee is on the list. Will call my dealer tomorrow. This is one part of what Suzuki's site said.



"Suzuki dealers will replace the regulator/rectifier on affected motorcycles with an improved part."
 

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And this?

A 2011 V Strom 650 I'm looking to buy has this sentence in the For Sale ad:

'New Electro Sport stator & low mile Suzuki regulator rectifier recently installed.... 14.3 volts rock solid'

I've not asked seller if this was replacement/repair for burnt/damaged unit(s) or just a precautionary install by seller.

I'm not too clear on what is happening with these units in many V Stroms' but is this step shown above, a proper fix and/or upgrade, for the issue being spoken of here in this and many other threads I've found? Thanks for any clarification.
 

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It's likely a repair for a burned out stator. The good news is you could probably get a new stator under the recall. The bad news is the Electrosport stator is statistically shorter lived than the OEM stator.
 

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I understand that many people were unhappy with older versions of the Electrosport. I haven't seen any commentary about units from the past couple years since Electrosport supposedly changed some manufacturing and business org. I installed their stator and R/R this summer and the mechanic said the build quality was far better than the Suzuki parts.

I will surely repost in the forum as I get miles on and can speak to the reliability.


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I tried researching recalls for my 2010"wee" dla any could find anything on the R/R am I missing something or I just appear to be lucky........

Let me know if you find anything

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None of us who own anything other than the new 1000 are "lucky", when it comes to the crap electrical system in these bikes. :wink2:
 

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I just called a dealer and had them run my VIN for my 2012 DL650A - not covered by the recall. I contacted Suzuki Canada about it as well.

It's presently in my garage, with a SECOND fried stator, at least, it's showing the symptoms of it. I got stranded in Adirondack Park last year and it cost me a fortune to get it fixed (and they replaced the stator but not the R/R).

Honestly, I just turned over 75,000 km on the bike, and I've about had it with Suzuki, I was at a Triumph dealer this past weekend and a BMW dealer as well. It would take a miracle for Suzuki to get me back as a customer, I think.
 
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