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I have only been ridding for about 10 years, averaging only 2k-3k miles a year. I am 63 and ride mostly 2up. Most of my riding is done on country roads (hate city traffic) in Florida or up in NW North Carolina.

I have a 06 650 Vstrom with 14k miles on her. runs great never really had any issues other than starter relay/solenoid . I love my strom and think it is a great bike, I have only had one other big bike a Yamaha 1100 Virago which I started off riding. ( I do have a Yamaha TW200, but thats not a real bike)so I dont have much to compare with.

However lately I have found myself 'eyeing' other bikes, thinking that maybe a smoother, lower CG bike, that is perhaps a little more forgiving for the few occasions that I may have to go off pavement on a gravel road. I am planning on doing a lot more riding in the near future and I am finding that 2up on the Strom tends to get strenuous at times.

Knowing that no one bike can fill all needs, and being very budget conscious, so I would probably be buying used. Is there another bike I could consider?

I have thought of the Honda ST 1100/1300, or the FJR's

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"Better 2-up" and "better off-road" don't really go hand-in-hand. More like opposites in most cases. Anything better off-road is going to be a taller (higher CG) bike.

If you're never riding 2-up off-road, you're probably better off replacing the Wee with two separate bikes, like a KLR/DR and a ST/FJR/concours.
 

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Well, I'd say you're eyeing other bikes because it's sometimes to cold out to ride depending where you live, but seeing you're in Florida you have no excuse. Kidding. My .02 is the, what's that bike like? Or, will that suit my/our riding needs better? Or, that's a nice looking motorcycle. Since you live in a state that has a longer than most riding season, check out when dealers are having demo days. Sit, ride, test, read everything you're interested in. Decide from there. Only you will know. Good luck in your research, have fun. Keep us posted.

Btw, the FJR, ST, Connie, RT family, Trophy, GW, are on the sport touring/ touring side. They significantly more than the Wee. Some just as top heavy, or more. Some carry their weight a little lower but like I mentioned, weigh more. Maybe V-twin tourers from H-D, and the big 4? but they weigh a lot more as well but do carry it low. Again, good luck. Your new bike is out there.....or you already own it...??
 

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That's a tough call since once your mind starts entertaining something different, it's hard for anyone to talk you back off the ledge. I look at it this way, life is short, bikes come and go depending on finances and what pleases us....so there is nothing wrong with getting a new to you ride.
Before you leap, take test rides on all the bikes in your sights....then decide. I had a hankering for a new bike this past spring, test rode a Tiger Xcx, decided on a 2015 DL650XT.....no regrets.
 

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I am 63 and ride mostly 2up.
However lately I have found myself 'eyeing' other bikes, thinking that maybe a smoother,
Knowing that no one bike can fill all needs, and being very budget conscious, so I would probably be buying used. Is there another bike I could consider?
your feedback appreciated
Dude, at your age, buy everything, your heart desires. You may not wake up tomorrow. Don't worry about leaving money to any relatives.
Go buy a 2017, whatever floats your boat.
I'm 69 and own two 1000's and two 650's, and a 08 Tiger. It doesn't make any sense, but do I give a fk?, I may not wake up tomorrow, but who dies with the most toys, is the winner.
 

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You already have basically a street bike that's very forgiving when you go off pavement, and is good for two up riding. Any other bike you find that has similar qualities (A Triumph Tiger, or a BMW GS, or a Versys, or a Super Tenere) are liable to have the same top heavy feeling that you now experience, and will be as much or more strenuous than what you're riding now.

I love the FJR for its great engine, but after years on a V-Strom and a Super Tenere, it felt cramped as hell. Also pretty heavy; you probably wouldn't notice it on the highway, but it might be a handful at low speed maneuvers, or on a dicey gravel road.

Have you considered something like a Honda CB1100? It's definitely a street bike, but it's a lot like one of the Universal Japanese Motorcycles that you used to see back in the 70's. I don't think a gravel forestry road would be beyond its capabilities, though it's by no means an off-road bike (neither is the V-strom, for that matter). Low saddle height, easy on and off for both rider and passenger, 540 pound curb weight, good dealer network. I've even seen them outfitted with aluminum panniers for adventure touring.
 

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just a thought but....

I'm liking the Ducati Scrambler. Lighter, would be great on gravel, light weight, good horsepower, I rode 2 up on my DR 650 so I'm probably not much of a good judge there. Possibly a bit exotic (dealer support) but it would suit me I think. Maybe you too. I'm 65.
 

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I have thought of the Honda ST 1100/1300, or the FJR's



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I don't see how those would be more forgiving on gravel roads. I did find that putting more aggressive tires (Mitas e07s) on my 650 made a huge improvement on gravel roads and still makes for a quality on road experience.




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I have only been ridding for about 10 years, averaging only 2k-3k miles a year. I am 63 and ride mostly 2up. Most of my riding is done on country roads (hate city traffic) in Florida or up in NW North Carolina.

I have a 06 650 Vstrom with 14k miles on her. runs great never really had any issues other than starter relay/solenoid . I love my strom and think it is a great bike, I have only had one other big bike a Yamaha 1100 Virago which I started off riding. ( I do have a Yamaha TW200, but thats not a real bike)so I dont have much to compare with.

However lately I have found myself 'eyeing' other bikes, thinking that maybe a smoother, lower CG bike, that is perhaps a little more forgiving for the few occasions that I may have to go off pavement on a gravel road. I am planning on doing a lot more riding in the near future and I am finding that 2up on the Strom tends to get strenuous at times.

Knowing that no one bike can fill all needs, and being very budget conscious, so I would probably be buying used. Is there another bike I could consider?

I have thought of the Honda ST 1100/1300, or the FJR's

your feedback appreciated
Take a look at the Triumph Scrambler or other scrambler type bikes.
 

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67 here, do about 10,000 a year and a lot of that two up and on gravel roads. Have a 2015 650XT. Same as a previous poster I put different tyres on it, Heidenau K60 scouts, and the difference on gravel is remarkable. Just been for a three hour round trip to pick up some boat bits and no matter how much I like the looks of other bikes, especially cruisers, this one ticks all the boxes for being a two wheeled Jeep.:grin2:

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I've heard that the Africa Twin *feels* lighter due to a lower COG. The BMW 1200GS comes to mind as well. It's heavier but it too is said to have a lighter feel. There may be a GS in my future too.


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Definitely NOT an ST1100 for anything off pavement....it's also a bit top heavy and very hot to crouch over in traffic.
Brilliant machine and go forever but not for what you describe.....

I'm 69 ....ride a KLR650 casual on and off pavement in Cairns Australia, CBF1000 for thrills ( not available to you ) and a 2010 Wee I use for distance in Canada.

I have to have a lot of luggage capacity as I carry for both kid and I ....his FZ8 not a mule...the Wee is.

For what you described...I'd be thinking two bikes. Something to tour on and the Wee.

Give some thought to the Burgman 650 for the low CofG tourer.
check out Suzuki Burgman Forum for a lot of riders input ....many are Strom owners as well.



They are available at decent prices and are a lot of fun in the twists.

Great weather protection.

Easy on the hands as no clutch ( why I bought it in the first place ).
Fantastic brakes, lights, storage, super reliable, very low CofG, power windscreen, heated grips are positives.
Short fuel range, eats rear tires, short suspension which makes it very stable in the twists but not so nice on rough pavement are the negatives

No lack of "go" up to about 90 mph actual....will take many bikes off the line due to the ECVT. Runs out of steam after that.
With a topcase for a back rest ....very comfie for two up....if it appeals...talk to the Burgman riders.

A number of Wing riders have downsized to the Burgman and happy with the lighter weight.

I'll be back on one once I get over my liter rush.

Under 500 lb...compact bike based on the Fireblade motor.


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The Stroms are high bikes but not top heavy. The ST's are very top heavy, which can be adventitious with training and experience but not so much otherwise, but a better choice for long distance. We also have an 888lb HD, not top heavy but just plain heavy. Our factory lowered GS1200 isn't the lowest, but it's the lightest and best ballenced and low enough for the 5' 4" 110lb little woman to ride. Lots of choices out there, get whatever floats your boat.
 

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Thanks for all the input guys....I have taken into consideration everything said, and the more I think about it the more likely I think I will be inclined to keep my Wee.
Maybe I just need to put in more saddle time and be content with the limitations to off pavement rididng.

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Retired and 59 here. You need to ride a lot more. I put 14k miles on my bikes in 13 months. I upgraded my 2013 650 to a 2014 1000 after about the same mileage as yours and The 1000 is a little better at everything except mileage and a tiny bit of money. Better two-up, better suspension, better brakes, better power, better stock seat, and better electronics. More than enough for the maybe 5% fire roads and gravel roads I frequent here in the Ozarks although seriously either worked with the right tires. You sound bored with it. You can find some bargains right now... I only upgraded because they had some new leftovers and were nearly willing to give them away to get rid of them.
 

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In summary; if you keep your Wee consider:
- Tires better suited for gravel. I'm still on my original OEM set and as others stated, these do not inspire confidence on gravel. Gravel will never feel good with the OEMs. I'm looking for the 90/50 tire :)
- Practice makes perfect (or at least better)
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Retired and 59 here. You need to ride a lot more. I put 14k miles on my bikes in 13 months. I upgraded my 2013 650 to a 2014 1000 after about the same mileage as yours and The 1000 is a little better at everything except mileage and a tiny bit of money. Better two-up, better suspension, better brakes, better power, better stock seat, and better electronics. More than enough for the maybe 5% fire roads and gravel roads I frequent here in the Ozarks although seriously either worked with the right tires. You sound bored with it. You can find some bargains right now...


Completely agree. Go to the '14+ Vee!


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What ever you decide, keep the Wee. How many bikes does a man need? One more than he already has. I have a FJR and my Wee, also a little simi-vintage 1993 XT350 for around town. The Wee and the FJR do complement each other very well. The Wee is used for my local rides in the mountains and the FJR for longer muti day trips.
 

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