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I've never written a long term review of a tire before, but I figure I'd start with one that I haven't seen on the forum yet. For reference I'm about 155 pounds soaking wet and ride pretty conservatively. I tend to get 9-11k out of my rear tires but I've only run the stock Trailwings (11k) Metzeler Tourance (10k) and two Battlewing BW502 (9 and 10k). I will be comparing the 712 to these tires.

I ordered my 712 from Rockymountainatv.com for about $65 shipped (after I bought an oil filter to get over the $75 mark for free shipping and was installed by my mechanic during a valve check. The tire as far as I can tell is bias ply (no R mark on the 150/70/17). On the tire itself it is labeled as "Shinko 712R", so I'm at a loss for whether it's radial or bias. Regardless, I've put about 100 miles on the tire, 40-50 have been on windy mountain roads, the other 50-60 on freeway slab and city streets.

Initial impressions after 100 miles:

After the first 70 or so miles and the slickness of it wore off, it started to feel like I was riding a motorcycle again rather than a bull. This thing was slick! More so than the BW502 I had just tossed. After the initial wear in period, though, I'm having a hard time distinguishing it from either the Metzeler or the Bridgestones. I'm not particularly picky when it comes to tires and I thought that the BW502 handled better than the Metzeler Tourance - the Shinko seems to be right up there in terms of grip. What I'm more concerned about is longevity and wear pattern. Leaning in to corners gave me no pause and I was able to test the limits of the "chicken strips" a little. Seemed just fine for the $90 total I paid to have it shipped and put on (BW502 was $152 - I brought a loose tire in saving 25). One of the reviews I saw on Revzilla that I liked and rang true was "It's black and round" - great value for money but not going to get you anywhere that a more expensive and technical tire will. So far so good. Pics below!







Tread at the center patch seems to be pretty deep. I like it.


More to come in a few thousand miles! Let's see how this thing holds up.
 

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Don't expect big mileage from the 712. I have run them on several vintage Guzz's and DR650. While they are a great value (especially if you change you own tires and/or need fresh rubber on a bike to help it sell) I don't think I ever saw more than about 3,000 miles out of rear
 

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There's a huge range of mileage people have been reporting. I've seen as low as 3 like you say and as high as 12. I wanted to see for myself. Thanks for the input.
 

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Love me some Shinko tires.....
 
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"Love me some Shinko tires.."

Got a rubber fetish you pervert?
Actually I'm partial to the macho 705's! YMCA music in my head!
 

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There's a huge range of mileage people have been reporting. I've seen as low as 3 like you say and as high as 12. I wanted to see for myself. Thanks for the input.

I'm convinced that tire wear is more dependent on the road surfaces you ride on. I see reports of people getting 2-3 times the mileage out of the same tire I use.

I run Shinko tires. Gone through a couple of sets of the 705s and 712s. Typically I'll get around 5k miles out of a back tire. I've always been curious if "high dollar" tires would be more cost effective but from talking to the BMW, KTM, etc. guys at work that buy premium tires they report about the same mileage as I get.

Of course they give the spiel about don't trust your life to cheap tires. At least they don't give me grief about riding a Jap bike!
 

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I've got a mind to try the 712; it's actually cheaper than the 705 that I'm running right now. My only downside is that it's not a radial, according to Rocky Mountain ATV, and they apparently don't make the right size front tire for my S10. I've checked a few places, and no one has a 110/80R-19.
 

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It's 20-30 cheaper than the 705 and definitely more road oriented which is why I selected it over the 705. It also has less reviews so I wanted to check it out.
 

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The bias ply Shinko 712's appear to be fairly close knock offs of the Bridgestone S11 Spitfires. Especially the front Shinko. The S11's have been around forever and still available. They used to cost about what Shinko's cost today, but have doubled in price. ( what hasn't?).

I went through a number of S11's on my old '72 Beemer Airhead. Also some BS BT45's. The S11's were very popular with Airhead owners and other classic bikes. They used to promote the dual tread compound tech for longer wear. I used to get 6-8k, rear and 10-12k front. They would square off pretty quickly on slab riding.

It may take a while to adjust to the bias ply tires, coming from radials.
 
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