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Anyone know if it possible to listen to music and receive the nav instruction using the 3 items listed?
 

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Yes but you don't need a TomTom Gps....just buy the TomTom app for the iphone....works the charm.
 

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I would imagine the ap uses data. I ride in a lot of places without service and my phone is paid for by my employer. Not sure they would like me using the data a GPS ap would consume.
 

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I do Sena, TomTom, and Samsung galaxy S6. Both S6 and TomTom go direct to Sena and not each other. I listen to the music if I am on the interstate for any length of time. If my wife calls on the phone she cannot tell I am on the motorcycle. I always have my GPS on for the accurate speedo and identifying gas stations and restaurants. If it is an old TomTom make sure you have the latest firmware updates for the Bluetooth.

The S6 will work as a GPS but the TomTom has a better screen for sun and touchscreen that works with gloves on. I used to use the phone until I got my wife's TomTom updated. The TomTom is better and it is easy to program trips/itineraries into it. I use a Mobius HD camera 100% of the time and the phone could cover that with the right mount but the Mobius has a dedicated 64GB Micro SD card in it and loops.
 

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No it does not....that's a common misperception. There is no data service at the top of Beartooth.



An iPhone is a standalone GPS and requires no data or network service for the app to operate and supply turn by turn audio and POI if needed.

It just keeps getting better.
 

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I love my Sena SMH10R and it will connect to multiple devices, but it won't overlay the sound. If I have a GPS and my phone attached and the GPS starts talking, it cuts the music out completely and takes a second to transfer back and forth. Same thing when I go to use the intercom. If my passenger and I are listening to music and we want to talk, I have to press a button or say something for it to switch to intercom and wait a second or two before I can start talking and then another couple seconds going back to the music.

The new model will supposedly overlay the sound, so your music from the phone will continue playing in the background when your GPS spews directions at you. I don't know how well it works, how much it lowers the sound of the first device so that you can hear the second, and I don't know how well it works with the intercom (if you are interested). But I would love to find out.

I talk to people while I am riding at 70+ mph on the interstate and they don't know that I am on my motorcycle. Even people that know and expect me to be on the bike.
 

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Someone on another forum told me the new ones lowers the sound by about 50% for notifications but not sure. The SMH10's are a real bargain now. I have seen some great deals on the single SMH10s lately.
 

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I awaiting arrival of my sena SMH 10. I haven't purchased the GPS yet but I am looking at the tomtom rider. I was concerned I couldn't pair both to the headset at the same time and didn't know if I could push the music from the phone through the GPS to the sena. Looks like it will work though.

I am not interested in using my phone for GPS. Its not water proof and you can't see it in the sun.
 

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It's your money but

a) yes you can see it in the sun as much as any GPS - that shot above was at 2 pm with a very bright sky....no LCD screen can be seen if the sun is directly on it and you don't angle it away - I leave my X-mount slightly loose on the bar so I can tilt it..
Generally iPhones have brighter and bigger screens than GPS do and certainly more detailed ( more pixels ) Only once in a while glare is annoying and I tip the phone and it's gone.
There are numerous hoods available as well,

b) there are dozens of ways to waterproof including as simple as a ziplock.
You are asking advice but refusing it for reasons that are not valid. Hell you've got the phone...there are numerous free nav apps - try it with say Co-Pilot as a start.

c) can't guarantee you can do what you want on the SENA 10. with twin Bluetooth feeds. Can for sure say that it works perfectly with multiple apps on the iPhone including music, phone conversation and Audible books as well as GPS directions.
If you are using audible GPS signals why are you concerned about being able to see it in the first place? There are thousands upon thousands of riders including me for years using smart phones as GPS and the apps have gotten better and better.

This poll is nearly 2 years old - you can bet the trend to smartphone use for Nav has accelerated as the apps have improved and the phones gotten brighter.



This was my first iPhone set up



and that on an iPhone 4 which I still carry as a spare. I use the X-mount now instead but with an iPhone 5. Newer models are brighter yet.
 

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When using one device for music and GPS I find both the GPS (Garmin nuvi 765) or iPhone 6 individually the music is paused when gps instructions are played. Obviously won't work like that with 2 devices.
 

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Yes but you don't need a TomTom Gps....just buy the TomTom app for the iphone....works the charm.
I'll second this. I use the TomTom Android app on a deactivated spare phone. It's the best app I've found with a POI database that is just as comprehensive as a dedicated GPS. I actually keep the phone in my pocket most of the time and rely only on audio directions, the TTS is very good.
 

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It's too bad TomTom decided not to have Winding Roads on the Android version tho that may have changed. The app continues to improve and I really like how it lays out the correct lane on multi-lane highways.



I also think the vertical presentation more useful than landscape.....but with the iPhone you can chose which.



The POI for gas stations was invaluable in Yellowstone when kid was way down but we could see on the View Map how we were progressing and kept going. Certainly for $50 and lifetime maps and updates it's a bargain.

I'd like to try CoPilot but there are a lot of upgrades needed that you pay for.
I mistakenly got the free app for Australia and have not figured how to get the basic app for North America that includes the NA map.

One of the improvements on the TomTom app is the expanding arrow as you approach your turn.
 

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It's your money but

a) yes you can see it in the sun as much as any GPS - that shot above was at 2 pm with a very bright sky....no LCD screen can be seen if the sun is directly on it and you don't angle it away - I leave my X-mount slightly loose on the bar so I can tilt it..
Generally iPhones have brighter and bigger screens than GPS do and certainly more detailed ( more pixels ) Only once in a while glare is annoying and I tip the phone and it's gone.
There are numerous hoods available as well,

b) there are dozens of ways to waterproof including as simple as a ziplock.
You are asking advice but refusing it for reasons that are not valid. Hell you've got the phone...there are numerous free nav apps - try it with say Co-Pilot as a start.

c) can't guarantee you can do what you want on the SENA 10. with twin Bluetooth feeds. Can for sure say that it works perfectly with multiple apps on the iPhone including music, phone conversation and Audible books as well as GPS directions.
If you are using audible GPS signals why are you concerned about being able to see it in the first place? There are thousands upon thousands of riders including me for years using smart phones as GPS and the apps have gotten better and better.

This poll is nearly 2 years old - you can bet the trend to smartphone use for Nav has accelerated as the apps have improved and the phones gotten brighter.



This was my first iPhone set up



and that on an iPhone 4 which I still carry as a spare. I use the X-mount now instead but with an iPhone 5. Newer models are brighter yet.
I am not going to do it your way. I am also not going to list my reasons why and convince you that I am right. Thanks for your comments but others have already answered my question.
 

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There are several apps that let you cache maps ahead of time if you don't have data. MotionX Drive is one of those. You can always load up to date maps with wifi ahead of your trip so you don't use cellular data.

WRT the audio part, I know the latest Sena (10S I think?) Will "duck" your music when the GPS is talking, and the duck level is adjustable.
 

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I have the older version of the Tomtom rider. My sena smh5 syncs with both the Gps and my iPhone. I stream music directly from my phone and the gps cuts in with directions.

As well, for someone like myself who travels a lot for work You can store your contacts on the gps and send/receive phone call thru the touch screen. It actually works quite well
 

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I love my Sena SMH10R and it will connect to multiple devices, but it won't overlay the sound. If I have a GPS and my phone attached and the GPS starts talking, it cuts the music out completely and takes a second to transfer back and forth. Same thing when I go to use the intercom. If my passenger and I are listening to music and we want to talk, I have to press a button or say something for it to switch to intercom and wait a second or two before I can start talking and then another couple seconds going back to the music.

The new model will supposedly overlay the sound, so your music from the phone will continue playing in the background when your GPS spews directions at you. I don't know how well it works, how much it lowers the sound of the first device so that you can hear the second, and I don't know how well it works with the intercom (if you are interested). But I would love to find out.

I talk to people while I am riding at 70+ mph on the interstate and they don't know that I am on my motorcycle. Even people that know and expect me to be on the bike.
That is my understanding on the new one also. but its $100 more...
 

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I wish that they would update the firmware to allow the bluetooth layering on the SMH10R. Oh well, it still does what I need it to.
I hear ya, I am trying to decide which one to get.
 

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I'm sure TomTom appreciates your donation >:)

The SENA 20 is brilliant ( tho had some teething pains )
The main advantage for me was a direct plug in for earphones which are far far better than any in helmet speaker system.
It also comes with a wide range of microphones and mounting systems other than just the boom mike.

Kid and I are actually waiting on the SENA noise control Helmet.

NOISE-CONTROL HELMET - Sena
 

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I wanted to get away from the earbuds is the main reason for wanting the senas. My wife rides a bike so having two is a plus. Picked up a pair of sena 10s with 3 mounts and mikes and all the other gadgets for $190 shipped. Hard to pass that up.
 
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