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I'm back on a Vstrom and the first thing to address is the seat...

I'm leaning towards the Suzuki gel seat or the new Airhawk R seat cushion, both in the same price range.

I've read through a lot of postings on the both the gel and airhhawk - good and bad on both.

If you were going to spend $200 ... where you you put your money?
 

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airhawk vs gel

Everyone I've talked to that has had the gel seat said it gets very hot.
I bought an Airhawk 2 for $100 and have been very happy with it. It is
cooler than the vinyl seat. I went from 20 to 30 minutes on stock seat
to about 2 hours on the Airhawk, then with a short break can go 2 more.
I can keep that up for 7 or 8 hours, then my knees and and butt get
to the point where it's not much fun. I don't know about the R, but I
have seen it and it looks good. Hope that helps. Dave
 

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I just ordered an Airhawk R. The distributor in Holland Ohio (near Toledo) has them for $169 with free shipping.

Leaving Friday for an 8 day trip down the Blue Ridge Parkway and riding in the Smokys. I'll let you know how it works out when I get back. :thumbsup:
 

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Given those two choices, I'd try the Airhawk R. About 5 years ago, I borrowed one of the original Airhawks from a friend and tried it on a gel seat because the gel seat wasn't taking care of the pain. Didn't like the Airhawk, but I realize I didn't spend enough time to get the air pressure adjusted correctly. Had too much in it and felt like I was sitting on top of a rubber ball. I've read enough in subsequent years to know that less air pressure inside is better.

But before I'd spend that $200, I'd spend $20 on a set of beads. Actually, that is what I did and it helped a lot until I could save up enough for a Russell.
 

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Update: The Airhawk R was great. I used it on a 7 day, 2200 mile trip from northern Ohio to SE Ohio, WV, down the entire length of the BRP, 3 days of riding in the Smokys and north GA. Also did the ride home from Deals Gap (one day, 600 miles).

300-400 miles each day were no problem with the Airhawk. The 600 mile trip home was long and hot....but the pad performed flawlessly.

Probably the best $169 I've ever spent on a motorcycle accessory.
 

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I'm using the Airhawk II on my gel and makes a hell of a difference:thumbup:
Gel is still to firm and holds way to much heat in Vegas.
Mike
 

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Airhawk R

Thanks for the feedback. I recently decided to go with the Airhawk R.
I'll have to admit I had some reservations about the Airhawk and didn't like the thought of dropping that kind of money on a pad of air - but, I'll have to admit it has increased the comfort level and so far I'm pleasantly surprised.
 

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I'm using the Airhawk II on my gel and makes a hell of a difference:thumbup:
Gel is still to firm and holds way to much heat in Vegas.
Mike
Yes and yes. They are both good. My used Wee came with a gel. I already had the Airhawk from past bikes, which hints at the Airhawk's versatility. Do NOT try standing up with the Airhawk (such as off road) for more than a moment. Mine has never fallen, but ... just saying.

They both raise the seat height about an inch over stock. If you are 6' or taller or have a 34+ inseam then the added legroom is a bonus. For average height or slightly shorter shorter riders, the Sargent may be a good choice and is better than stock hands down.

Yes, the gel gets hot. The gel seat is better the more frequently you ride, as you get conditioned (probably true for any saddle in bicycling, horseback riding, and motorcycling). But I still like it better than the Sargent. In contrast to the gel, the Sargent sits low, cramps my knees a little, and the narrow front makes my, um, nuts sore after 100 miles! Neither of these seats is fantastic in reality! I'll take the warm gel over the Sargent. For those in the market for a gel seat, many of us like the medium sized Alaska sheepskin which actually keeps the gel seat very tolerable in the summer. Further, LDComfort riding shorts (or similer technical. wicking compression shorts) also keep you dry and cool.
 

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What's the latest / best seat cushioning / comfort option ?

Resurrection of an older thread.

So the weather's pretty nice here in SWVA and yesterday I decided to take my first longer ride of the season (been commuting all winter, as much as safely possible). I rode just over 100 miles of everything from potholed dirt / gravel to rough "paved" secondary to super twisty secondary to freeway.

Was super-sore when I got home, and I'd stopped a couple times to stretch.

I'll comment that the freeway riding wasn't fun. I'm normally able to avoid it but thought I'd try it again and really just didn't feel safe beside the 18 wheelers. If I make a longer trip it will be mostly on non-freeway roads. Overall though it was a very enjoyable riding experience. Great weather yesterday and today and tomorrow...

I'm closer to 60 YO than to 50 YO now (a fairly new situation) so maybe that's it, or maybe I just haven't ridden as much recently as I was accustomed to last spring / summer / fall, but I was feeling the numbness, stiffness and soreness big time when I got home.

I get along fine with my OEM (non-gel) Wee seat for my 10-mile daily commute, and for nearly all my riding, but if I want to spend several hours riding I want more seat cushioning.

So what's the best option out there - an Airhawk ? If so, which version ?

Any and all comments appreciated.
 

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I get along fine with my OEM (non-gel) Wee seat for my 10-mile daily commute, and for nearly all my riding, but if I want to spend several hours riding I want more seat cushioning.

So what's the best option out there - an Airhawk ? If so, which version ?

Any and all comments appreciated.
I have spent a fortune on seat fixes. From blow up air cushions, to gel pads, to sheepskins, to airhawks, to aftermarket seats.

The pads.....just don't work for REAL comfort. Might extend the days ride before blisters sit in, but look out the next day!

Some aftermarket seats are better than others.

There is only one solution I have found that allows me to ride 800 mile days and then get up the next morning ready to do it again ( the second and third day test is the REAL test of a seat!). Russell Day Long. You will spend $400 to $800 having yours built. PITA waiting for it if you don't have a spare seat pan. I justify the expense this way-if I can ride the bike twice as far with no pain, isn't that worth every penny on a multi thousand dollar investment?
 

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I have spent a fortune on seat fixes...There is only one solution I have found that allows me to ride 800 mile days and then get up the next morning ready to do it again ( the second and third day test is the REAL test of a seat!). Russell Day Long. You will spend $400 to $800...
Thanks for commenting. That's the sort of response I was hoping to get (and hoping not to get :D). I've read good things about Russell's. Nothing bad really, except the price. I was hoping to hear of something that's less pricey and that does a good job for occasional use. Maybe there is no such thing. Again, thanks.
 

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I just bought a used 2012 suzuki v-strom dl650a with the stock seat. I'm tall so I wanted to get higher to uncramp my legs. I went with a sheepskin cover and a piece of high-density foam cut out to fit under the sheepskin. I sit a bit higher and the ride feels a bit cushier, and the total cost is under $75. The sheepskin is cool in summer and warm in winter, so for those who feel that gel is too hot, try the sheepskin.

Next, I'm going to fit a peg-lowering kit.
 

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Don't over look the Beadrider. I prefer it over the Airhawk and many thousands of riders use them

I move it from bike to bike - even use it on Aircraft and my office chair.
The ceramic one looks good and very durable and extremely nice in hot weather tho I use it in any weather.



I had the Airhawk and did make the mistake of standing up on the KLR at speed and it got eaten by the chain. :crying2:

IMNSHO Airhawk is too expensive and too fussy compared to the Beadrider.

Warning....it will feel hard andyou think...this can't work.:confused:

It does. :grin2:

https://www.beadrider.com
 
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