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#1 ·
Hi All just wondering if any one has use the Butt Buffer seat cushion on your bike to help on long time in the saddle ? :confused:
 
#2 ·
32--I see by your avatar info that you may be a relatively new Stormtrooper. If you are using the OEM seat and you find it uncomfortable (which so many of us do) your problem will likely not be solved by adding some sort of pad on top of the seat. IMO, the OEM seat foam is too soft, for one thing, so it doesn't support well, and compresses quickly, making it hard. Butt burn sets in quickly, as does the dreaded "numb crotch," which is caused by the odd angle the seat forces you to sit at, shoving you into the front rise of the seat, with the resulting numbness setting in.

For most of us, the answer lies in an aftermarket seat. A few have the right shaped butts, so a Corbin seat works for them. Sargent makes a very good seat that works well for many Strommers. I have a Russell Daylong Saddle and it is fabulous. It is a true day long, distance seat. It's not cheap, though, but well worth the cost. There are a few VStrom riders for who the stock seat works, some as is, and some with a pad of some sort. Personally, I feel that the answer is to modify the seat, not put something on top of it.

There are several good aftermarket, custom seat makers out there that make seats for the VStrom. I can't endorse or recommend any of them specifically, however I can tell you that I love my Russell Daylong. I'm sure that as other chime in on this thread that they will extoll the virtues of whatever seat they have and love. Hope this helps answer your question.
 
#9 ·
I'm with you on that. My Airhawk in combination with moisture wicking compression shorts and monkey butt powder has allowed me to ride 500+ mile days with little pain. I wouldn't buy the $180 Airhawk though as that's almost half the cost of an aftermarket seat. I believe the one I have was $80-90 and it's perfect.
 
#4 ·
I've just completed a three day 2000km round trip. A friend leant me his air hawk and at first I thought it was very comfortable but 200km down the road I developed bad back pain. I tried different amounts of air but the pain stayed. At the end of day one I removed it and the next day my back pain was gone. I guess what works for one person doesn't necessarily mean it gonna work for everyone. I'm one of those lucky guys who found the stock seat comfy.
 
#5 ·
After a while the stock foam goes limp, even my Suzuki Gel seat got soft and it still had poor shape, slid me into the gas tank.

I tried the airhawk cushion, but it didn't last and always felt odd being high up on the seat. Air cushions at that price should be more durable than couple years or so. My friend has one too and his failed also after 3 years of occasional use.

If your running the stock seat I would just get a Seat Concepts kit and put it on your stock pan. I did mine at home, but a shop charges around $25 usually. Not a hard job. The SC kit is very reasonable in price and well made, I think it compares to a Sargent seat in comfort. The rear portion has a nice shape for a passenger too. I've had $700 seats that felt terrible, the SC kit is good and I use it for 500 mile days often.
 
#6 ·
Mine came with a sargent and it is quite comfortable. I haven't done any ultra long rides, but I ride 2 hours a day to work, and did a 4 hour each way ride and was fine.

I have since added a beaded seat cover and it is better than ever. The beads keep my tookus cool and comfortable. I may take it off as the weather cools, but it's been great in the hot humid summer here.
 
#20 ·
Yup works for me. Originally got it 'cause my jeans would stick to the seat and ride up on my legs. Since then have had no comfort issues and have done some some very long days including an Iron Butt with no trouble.
 
#10 ·
The leader of our riding group announced, during a break on Sunday, he was wearing Depends under his riding pants and that we should try it. Beyond the bravery it took to announce that to 15 men and 1 woman, there might be something to it. I'm going around Southern California for the day this Sunday (+-350 m) and I may give it a try.

I ride with my stock seat and an ATV seat cover I bought at WalMart for less than $20. I found after 250 miles of constant riding in the heat I would start getting sore from being pushed forward like others have said. I have now "stored" my micro fiber towels, placed strategically, under the pad and I'm doing much better. Did 1400 miles in 4 days a week ago, primarily in triple digit heat, and butt fatigue was never an issue. Always looking for the cheap way out due to 5 kids and 3 divorces.
 
#11 ·
something that should always be considered before spending any money on a saddle is your underwear


even the best saddle in the world custom moulded to your butt will give you swamp ass if you're wearing the wrong underwear

stay away from cotton and underwear with conventional seams

look for wicking fabric & flat seams or no seams

How it all began - Tri Monte Group Inc DBA LDComfort
 
#13 ·
I've tried the motorcycle underwear, didn't work for me especially the LD comfort things. One day I decided to use some cheap cycle short liners for wearing under normal clothes that sucked on the bicycle, well the thin suckers work good on the bike. So, on long days I now use the thin cool fabric padded bicycle liner shorts under my mesh riding pants, works great for me. Doesn't make me hot at all, regular thick cycle shorts felt funny and hot to me. But, I normally ride a mountain bike so I'm not into the spandex stuff, but as underwear the liner shorts with "gel pad" work nicely on my seat concepts saddle. I can ride all day for 10 hours or more with minimal issues. Things do go numb if you ride tank to tank all night for 600 miles, been there done that. My best ever was well over 1200 miles stopping just for fuel and quick food making time trying to get home quickly from the SW. My butt hurt for a couple days after that though.
 
#14 ·
Thanks for all the input just have to start trying different things.I have tried one brand of riding underwear ,it did make a little difference,have looking some other that were mention here ! Not looked at seats.The Butt Buffer said that the can also install this product in my stock seat.
 
#16 ·
The one i tried were the KLIM brand no padding just breathable and no seams .The Moto-Skiveez were on my list but found there prices high,and the shipping for me was 25 dollars , and did not know any one that had tried them ,but they probably would be my next chose !
 
#17 ·
I had good luck with a beaded cover, which was more comfortable than a Sargent seat. But now think this seat cover is the best. It's made for motorscooters in Asia. Keeps the seat cool as it lets air under, and keeps water from sitting on the seat in monsoon rains.
And its very cheap. Combined with bicycle shorts, I can go all day easily now.
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#22 ·
Depends??? .......Really?, sorry, but before that even happens I will hang up my keys.

For the OP, as stated a custom seat is the answer. Terry Adcox will build you a seat for about half of a Russell Day Long($250 ish). I can do 11 hour days on my Adcox seat with no seat issues at all. Can't say the same for my legs....they just don't make a bike for a 36" inseam so I stand up a lot to ring them out.

Warning: TMI....but y'all brought the subject up, so here it goes. I usually go Commando, but for the trip I Just got home from(over 8,500 miles in a little over 25 days) I bought a pair of Duluth Trading Company Armachillo underwear:

Men's Armachillo Cooling Boxer Briefs - Duluth Trading

The reason for this was without any underwear, the Kevlar Jeans and Fire Hose canvass jeans I wear tend to rub things raw over a few days in the saddle....this is not fun. I have to say that the Armachillo's worked perfect and kept me cooler than cotton/blend types that I tried in the past. They are also comfortable...no bunching or riding up.