Addendum: it's especially galling that they have the nerve to say that, when some of their installations require cutting the vacuum tube on your motorcycle.
Get a female spade connector and crimp a wire in it then slide the two together to make a adapter and you don't have cut the Scott Oiler wire.From the controller on the eSystem 3.1.
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This is obviously loopy and unreasonable. Very few riders have only one accessory and can attach it right to the battery. I have to cut the spades off to attach it to my fuse box.
Not impressed. They are getting cut, and if it needs service within the 2 year warranty period and they give me any crap about it, I'll make sure that's made public.
Until they invent tubeless vacuum lines when using a vacuum operated Scott Oiler that you'll have to tap into a vacuum somewhere line to it work. It's not a big deal to snip the vacuum line and slip in a barbed tee. If you don't want to cut a vacuum line you can always drill and tap one of the throttle bodies or anyplace downstream of the airbox to get a good vacuum source.Addendum: it's especially galling that they have the nerve to say that, when some of their installations require cutting the vacuum tube on your motorcycle.
That is quite beside the point (and wouldn't be that simple anyway since it's not a common size; the spades are sized for battery bolts, which are quite large).PerazziMx14, post: 5647440, member: 159777"]
Get a female spade connector and crimp a wire in it then slide the two together to make a adapter and you don't have cut the Scott Oiler wire.
Exactly. Nor is it a big deal to snip the end of the vendor's power wire and provision the wire appropriately, and in fact that is a normal and expected part of any professional electrical accessory installation. I think that was precisely my point.Until they invent tubeless vacuum lines when using a vacuum operated Scott Oiler that you'll have to tap into a vacuum somewhere line to it work. It's not a big deal to snip the vacuum line and slip in a barbed tee. If you don't want to cut a vacuum line you can always drill and tap one of the throttle bodies or anyplace downstream of the airbox to get a good vacuum source.
You'll note I said this is the eSystem 3.1. It is fully electric. I used the vacuum installation as an analogy.The electric Scott oiler from my understanding is pumped so there are no vacuum lines to modify or deal with.
Sometimes it's easier to plow around the stump.That is quite beside the point (and wouldn't be that simple anyway since it's not a common size; the spades are sized for battery bolts, which are quite large).
Exactly. Nor is it a big deal to snip the end of the vendor's power wire and provision the wire appropriately, and in fact that is a normal and expected part of any professional electrical accessory installation. I think that was precisely my point.
You'll note I said this is the eSystem 3.1. It is fully electric. I used the vacuum installation as an analogy.
It is very likely not legal in the US, under the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act, for the manufacturer to deny a warranty claim for a specious reason such as merely using a different type of 12v power connection. I am not going to sweat it, but if if ever does need service under warranty, I will report back to the community on their response and resolution.
This is true. Imho the Tutoro is a better product. I ran one of each on two bikes at the same time. I was forever adjusting the Scottoiler feed. Not so with the Tutoro. Just set it up and it meters perfectly.This is just an uninformed suggestion, as I don't know a lot about either brands/model, but i did see that the Tutoro oiler is self contained, no wires or vacuum connections. Just a thought.
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Adam.
True enough.Sometimes it's easier to plow around the stump.
I got the opposite impression from the posts I found here, but that's good to know. I'll keep it in mind for next time if this one doesn't do it for me.This is true. Imho the Tutoro is a better product. I ran one of each on two bikes at the same time. I was forever adjusting the Scottoiler feed. Not so with the Tutoro. Just set it up and it meters perfectly.
Agree on the Tutoro. Just installed and took it for a 600+ mile ride. Couldn't be happier with it. It works great, requires no supervision, flow can be regulated with the turn of a thumb-screw.This is just an uninformed suggestion, as I don't know a lot about either brands/model, but i did see that the Tutoro oiler is self contained, no wires or vacuum connections. Just a thought.
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You are absolutely correct to be upset about this. The electrical terminal modification obviously would not cause any system malfunction, so they should continue to stand behind their product if properly and reasonably installed to fit your electrical situation. Also, having a multitude of wires connecting directly to the battery terminal is neither safe nor reliable. I have to shake my head at how much effort someone put into designing this sticker. Someone must have been angry with their customers.From the controller on the eSystem 3.1.
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This is obviously loopy and unreasonable. Very few riders have only one accessory and can attach it right to the battery. I have to cut the spades off to attach it to my fuse box.
Not impressed. They are getting cut, and if it needs service within the 2 year warranty period and they give me any crap about it, I'll make sure that's made public.
Or they got tired of or anticipated people cutting off the terminals and then getting pos/neg mixed up then wanting to make a warranty claim.You are absolutely correct to be upset about this. The electrical terminal modification obviously would not cause any system malfunction, so they should continue to stand behind their product if properly and reasonably installed to fit your electrical situation. Also, having a multitude of wires connecting directly to the battery terminal is neither safe nor reliable. I have to shake my head at how much effort someone put into designing this sticker. Someone must have been angry with their customers.
Because it's not possible to reverse the polarity with spades?Or they got tired of or anticipated people cutting off the terminals and then getting pos/neg mixed up then wanting to make a warranty claim.
They can say what they want, but not all warranty provisions are necessarily enforceable. So we're back to your stump, but the stump grinder may cost more than the product is worth. (Is that a mangled enough analogy?So, Scott is boldly telling you what will void the warranty. Like it or not it's their rules and there for a reason.
That will certainly be a consideration in future. However, this issue was not knowable until the box was opened, at which point the product is not returnable. (Revzilla's rules, and they're on solid ground there).Best thing you can do is not patronize them.
Just like any number of things if you modify it from factory you have voided the warranty.They can say what they want, but not all warranty provisions are necessarily enforceable. So we're back to your stump, but the stump grinder may cost more than the product is worth. (Is that a mangled enough analogy?)
That will certainly be a consideration in future. However, this issue was not knowable until the box was opened, at which point the product is not returnable. (Revzilla's rules, and they're on solid ground there).
Now that it's posted here, it's at least knowable for others.