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Hi all,

I recently bought a new DL-650 K7. I love it to bits. It looks and goes beautifully. My best ever bike in fact.

I'm looking to upgrade the seat. Any advice? I'm considering the Sargent World Sport Seat. http://www.sargentcycle.com/suzwsvstrom.htm. Anyone out there can vouch for it?

I have the touring model K7 in blue, with ABS, hand-guards, centrestand and a colour-matched topbox. I added Suzuki crash-bars and a skid-plate. I ordered a carbon rear hugger from the dealership but it didn't fit properly as the K7 swing-arm is 12mm longer and slightly thinner than the K6. Luckily I didn't like the look of it anyway and the dealer swapped it for the 650-X dark low screen; much better in terms of wind noise and buffeting (looks great) though for touring I will try a GIVI tall screen. For the same reason I'll be fitting a Scottoiler, an indispensable upgrade for serious mile-munchers. I also added the carbon-look V-Strom tank-protector and chrome Suzi tyre caps. (That's it for now darling wife I promise...!)

My last bike was a Kawasaki KLE 500, best forgotten quickly - bought and sold in six weeks (no power, dire handling, little brakes, and very uncomfortable.) I sold it and bought the V-Strom: a world apart.

Before the KLE I had my long-term gem of a bike: the fabled Yamaha FJ1200. It was grunty, fast, and rock-steady. Bought new in 1990 for £4400 it kept going until 124,000 miles as realiably as a Swiss watch and sold for £1250. All it ever needed was regular feeding with petrol, oil, tryes, batteries, chains and sprockets, and minor TLC when occasionally necessary e.g. rear-wheel bearings, camchain, exhaust, shock/fork servicing and other simple-to-fix age-related niggles. No faults on the FJ12 EVER left me walking home or calling the RAC. That's impressive reliability. Nothing ever stopped it: hail, snow, torrential rain, high mountain passes, flooded roads, desert storms; nothing. As to the engine - an unburstable gem.

Previous steeds (Italy '75 to '85) Garelli 50cc 2stroke, Laverda 125cc 2stroke, Ducati 350cc Scrambler, Guzzi V35 / V65, Ducati 900SS. The I moved to England ('85-present) Honda CG125, Honda CB400, and the Yamaha FJ1200 from '91. I daily commuted in London 2 miles each way ('95 to '03) on a Piaggio Vespa PX200IE, Piaggio 125 "new-style" Vespa, and Kymco Ego 250, only using the FJ12 at week-ends and for touring.

Where I now live in Devon, UK, the Wee-Strom has everything I want from a bike. It has an ideal blend of acceleration, flickability, motorway cruising speed and A-road grunt. It will hold 100mph steady as a rock on the motorway, managing 220 miles between refills. It has excellent 60mph roll-on power, leaping forward through 70, 80 and 90. It begins to run out of steam around 100 and eases to a max about 125, but who cares anyway? I neither crave nor need 155+ mph that I (once) got on the FJ12. 70mph to 90mph is where it's for me for cruising these days (I'm now 45...) as I neither want to lose my licence nor my life.

So the Wee-Strom is by far the best bike in the world. Unbiased opinion. With 40% less power than the FJ-1200 it is much lighter, feels faster, handles, turns and stops better.

However...

For long-distances the Yamaha FJ12 was easily able to blast my wife and I across Europe, in pretty good confort, up to 900 miles in a day. I discovered how bad the Wee-Strom seat was on our first long jaunt as we rode 350 miles each way to see the MotoGP in Donington. It was a real pain in the ass - rock hard after 100 miles, numb at 150, sore at 200, agony by 250. I'm therefore looking to change: I like the sound of the Sargent World Sport Seathttp://www.sargentcycle.com/suzwsvstrom.htm.

Has anyone tried it for fit and comfort? I'm 6'4". It sure looks purty though...

Rory
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I've owned Sargent seats before and they look great, especially with the carbon FX material. I use the Suzuki Gel seat and it works very well for me. The price is right at only around $140 so you might want to try this option first. If you don't like the Gel seat you can always sell it in a heartbeat to another member. My $.02
 

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Nice Seat

I've just bought a sargent seat for my DL1K, a very nice seat. It offers more support on the sides and rear of your butt, and is better shaped to support you over a distance than the stock seat. Also looks alot snazzier too. Is a tad pricey though.
 

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the second thing i have done to my new vee strom is the suzuki gel seat. It is a little lower then stock and much flatter. It offers much better support and does not allow you to sag into it. support is even. I put 50 or so miles on it this morning, and so far its MUCH better. Only complaint is it seems to pitch forward a bit more then stock. as big as i am the farther back, the better.
fwiw i have a corbin on my tlr, it made a WORLD of difference. but thus far, the cheaper option seems to be a good choice. ill post back after a few more miles.
 

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I have the sargent seat for about 3mo.,At first i didn't like it. So i tried to reshape the stock seat [bad move]. Then i started useing the sargent, it does take a little time to break in,at least for me. I can now do 150mi. before i start to move around and get off for a little bit. I'd say its a 4 out of 5.


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I regularly run 4-500+ mile days on my 1k. The Sargent makes that possible. I don't know of any other seat that allows me to only stop for gas every 225 miles. When you can run 450 miles and only stop once, not hurt AT ALL and be ready to get back on the bike and do it all over again at 8 am the next day - that's a keeper.

I'd sell my Strom before I sold my Sargent. 'Nuff said.
 

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What is the best deal that can be had on a Sargent? Monkey, you said you paid $299, I have not been able to find them for that.
 

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Sandhill PowerSports. They are not listed on the website (they keep selling out by word of mouth before they get listed) so you have to call them in person and order.

However, I will warn you that we have wiped out all the Sargent WS Touring Saddles across the country. Word from both Sandhills and Sargent is - they are out of the seat pans, and it will likely be 3-6 weeks before any more are ready to be shipped to distributors. So get on the list now if you want one before the end of the summer.
 

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Sandhill PowerSports. They are not listed on the website (they keep selling out by word of mouth before they get listed) so you have to call them in person and order.

However, I will warn you that we have wiped out all the Sargent WS Touring Saddles across the country. Word from both Sandhills and Sargent is - they are out of the seat pans, and it will likely be 3-6 weeks before any more are ready to be shipped to distributors. So get on the list now if you want one before the end of the summer.
Son of a b----.

Well, I was going to call them tomorrow, I'll place an order anyway and keep using the Airhawk until then...

Steve.
 

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Son of a b----.

Well, I was going to call them tomorrow, I'll place an order anyway and keep using the Airhawk until then...

Steve.
I ordered a Sargent a couple of months ago. Even if the pans are in stock, they say they don't assemble them until they get an order. Mine took about 2 weeks.

Something else I like about the Sargent is the rainproof storage tube under the seat. Not particularly high tech (I see similar tubes on real estate signs to hold fliers), but it's where I keep the registration, insurance and photocopies of my license and health insurance cards.

My first wife and I did 1300 miles on it a few weeks ago, and it was quite nice. I don't think it was well broken in yet, so we had to stop and get the blood back into our backsides every hundred miles or so. But that's probably a good thing to do anyway.
 

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My first wife and I did 1300 miles on it a few weeks ago,
Your first wife... a few weeks ago? What did your current wife think of that?

(One of those "I just gotta know..." things.)

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I just called Sandhill, they want $341.96 shipped. It will take 4 weeks. I hope someone selling their strom will sell me their Corbin or Sargent.
 

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I ordered mine yesterday (7-24) right from Sargent. Yeah, paid more ($379 + $20 shipping) but I got the 30 day guarantee, which to me was worth the extra cost.

They did tell me that I caught them between production runs, and he said that I could expect shipment sometime in mid-August. So I'm not holding my breath until around 8-20 or so.

In the meantime I'll keep using my Airhawk pad.

Steve.
 

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