Most of the super long distance guys wear one piece suits. A lot professional Moto journalists too....
I am sure the $1500 suits are a very well engineered compromise for a wide range of climates but there is no way they are not hot in the dead of summer and at the same time warm enough when the temps drop well below 40.
Never tried a cooling vest because I heard they suck in the East Coast humidity. True?Most of the super long distance guys wear one piece suits. A lot professional Moro journalists too.
Think of them as an outer shell. Waterproof, protective and breathable. They aren't a compromise as much as a wide climate range solution.
As far as them being hot they control airflow better than mesh. Once the ambient air approaches body temp mesh type gear actually makes you hotter. It's better to block the hot air and vent it so it circulates inside the jacket. Combined with a cooling vest you can control your micro climate!
Iron Butt Hot Weather (.pdf)
Came home today from Cottage country to Toronto. My thermometer hit 37c.(98.6f) and Sunny....and Humid. Was I ever grateful to have this Cool vest. I had on BMW boots, gloves, Klim Gore Tex jeans, BMW airflow jacket (Pretty heavy) and to top it off a Hellite Turtle airbag vest. The ride was 4 hours with the last 1.5 hours in urban traffic. Gross. I am currently half way through watching a youtube video on a guy making a cooling suit using a mini compressorI bought one last year. Works Great!!! 🆒
I was talking about crash protection. If you hold a JR next to any of the ones I mentioned, there is a discernible difference in the quality of the JR to Klim/Aerostich/Motoport/Rukka . Double stitched seams, thick Cordura and Kevlar panels in all the right places, ceramic slide zones. Let's not forget the internally bonded Goretex with a lifetime guarantee. Yes, they are expensive but you really can't compare them to JR gear. It's whole 'nother league.There is also a lot of overpriced gear out there of marginal benefit. Joe Rocket has served me well and I just added some of the D30 armor to keep it going a while longer.
Over 15 years on my mesh jacket and the only failure has been the sleeve velcro.
If you wear leathers and slide you will get friction burns, and possibly leather or other clothing stuck to your skin.. never peel the leathers off a rider who has just had a slide down the road, if he is burnt the nerve endings on his skin wont feel you peeling flesh off until it is too late.My understanding is if you wear leather you will slide, a good thing, if you wear textiles you will roll, not such a good thing.
Even knowing that I prefer textiles.
Thanks for that; so am I.I'm glad you weren't seriously hurt
That wasn't my point at all. My points were:You really can't compare Joe Rocket stuff to Klim/Aerostich/Motoport/Rukka for crash protection.
This is my set up too. I used to have an Olympia jacket with one insulated liner and another water repellent layer. It was a pain to have to dismount to layer up, plus the outer layer would get soaked and the water repellent layer was ok for a shower but not a downpour. Klim is the closest I have found to honest water proof though there are others like the Aerostich Roadcrafter. I have just not tried them. I had a Badlands that began to weep and get damp inside from heavy rain after about 3 years. Klim replaced it with a new jacket for free and it was even a newer model. Eventually I got a Carlsbad jacket because it is lighter and not as stiff as the Badlands. No need to carry extra rain gear other than gloves. It has enough vents to make all but the hottest days bearable and as mentioned in another post in this thread, if it is scorching hot I don't want to wear mesh and dehydrate even faster. A heated jacket liner underneath (I use Gerbing) is not bulky, keeps me warm down below freezing with just a base layer underneath, and it doubles as a light jacket for around town so there is one less thing to pack.Klim Badlands top and bottom. Waterproof, windproof, lots of vents to open, abrasion resistant, armor in all the right places. A heated jacket and a cooling vest and I'm good to go from 35F to 100+F. No stopping to put on or take off gear. I dress for the weather and the crash.
Lots of great deals on used gear in the Advrider Flea market.