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Ok...after going on a 6000km ride this summer and taking all of about 5 photos :( and having been pinched in traffic with some really close calls recently...I pulled the trigger and ordered a Drift Ghost HD camera....I am hoping I can get more and better pics/video when I am out on an adventure....and maybe a little piece of mind "just in case" while commuting to work.... regardless.... who can recommend places and ways to mount the camera...not sure if I want it on my helmet yet... and what is the standard in video editing/ still capture software?? as I am a complete dolt in this area of computing :) Thanks.
 

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The smoothest video will come from the camera mounted on your body someplace (helmet or chest mount), although it isn't horrible on your bars either. I had some luck with mine mounted on my engine guards too although some say it didn't work for them there. I have a gopro.

The helmet mount probably looks the dorkiest IMO (top or side), but it works and it films what you look at, so whatever.

If you just want it for security, add a mount to your bars and set it to forever record (if your camera has that mode), then you just hit the button if you want it to save the last hour of video or whatever.

I like the Gopro studio software because it has Proview built-in, but there are other editors out there with the Sony Vegas Pro being the top end application (so I hear). Windows Movie Maker works pretty well too, nice and simple.
 

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-watch other people's videos for ideas of what you like and what you don't like

- figure out at least six ways to mount the camera, and use those various mounts. More angles = more variety to the video

- try a few different editing programs. Most have free trials available for 30 days. I personally use Corel Videostudio, available for free trial download at Corel Corporation
 

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Top of Helmet is by far the best location as it is the most stable and the camera goes where you look. Side of the helmet is ok, but you see a limited field of view with the one side of the helmet taking up a portion of the picture. Chest mount sucks....so now we all have to see your gas tank, gauges, handlebars & windshield all the time. Bike mounts can be ok depending on vibration and a clear field of view...I have never found any spot on the bike that is better than the top of the helmet. Yes, it looks dorky, but I only GoPro off road.
 

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Alot of ADV guys are switching over from GoPro to the Drift. YellowHrnt demonstrated his Drift to me at the Vstrom Rally. I like it.......bullet shaped for better........ahhh..........ergos (?). He dropped his on the ground a few times to demonstrate its durability. I believe he had his mounted on the side of his hat.........
 

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I used a Drift Ghost camera on our recent Himalayan Motorcycle tour. I used both the helmet mount and a mount on master cylinder of the Royal Enfield. It's pretty tough; I didn't have it pushed into the bar mount far enough and it fell off while climbing one of the passes, 25-30 kmph, fell into some water and was still running when I found it!
The only thing I disliked about the helmet mount (on the side of my helmet) could see part of my face shield in the frame and the sudden movement in the video clips when I was briefly looking left or right at the scenery. The bar mount would have worked better with ram mount of some sort but I didn't have one of those available over there.
My friend used a Go Pro but we ended up using most of the video from my camera because it appeared to be clearer and had a wider angle of view. They make an adapter for the Go Pro mounting system that will enable you to mount the Drift onto the Go Pro mount which is a little more versatile. I also bought after market charger with extra batteries and a mike.
I've posted some video under the ride report section if you want to take a look.
 

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Great tips guys....I am hoping I can figure out a way to mount on front rt side of the fairing...not worried about looks....but definitely can't see me running with a "mohawk" on top of my bucket...but who knows.... will play and see... definitely looking forward to playing with the video software, as long as I can find something good and stupid proof to use :)
 

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a drift? stick it to your helmet, get a microphone, and start motovlogging. :thumbup:

I like the helmet mount. that way, if I want to film something, I just turn my head. in my setup, you can see my helmet on the left of the screen, but it does not take up that much room.
 

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... definitely looking forward to playing with the video software, as long as I can find something good and stupid proof to use :)
buying the camera and shooting footage is the easy part. Editing the video to a finished product is tedious, time consuming, computer intensive..... and utterly necessary.

I've owned action cams for 6 years now and have compiled about 2 terrabytes of video. I can tell you that the vast majority is boring run-of-the-mill stuff that is basically unwatchable. But the finished videos.... well I can enjoy those over and over because I included only the most interesting bits.

My point is that if you don't spend the time and effort to learn how to edit the video your camera purchase will ultimately result in tons of unedited video which you will quickly lose interest in.

Editing is THE most important part of the whole endeavor.
 

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Would be interested where you got it and how much it cost. I've wanted a gopro for a while now but just seems like a lot of money to lay out. I'd also love to see some sample videos and hear a general review when you have time.
 

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For me the crash bars didn't work. Too much vibration coming down off of the throttle. I've got aluminum hard boxes and now mount them on the outside rear corner of the box. I little neoprene pad under helps dampen vibrations quite a bit. The over all pov is cool. You get the rider and all of his postures looking from the back, the shifting in the seat, the clutchshifts and the get offs. Pretty cool pov.

Craig.
 

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+1 on what Rashnak said about editing. Too many people with cams and no patience to edit.
I have two Drift Ghosts (not the new 'S' version), and I'm basically ok with them.
Quick review:
- Battery life could be more consistent. Make sure you stock extra batteries (I keep a couple of Wasabi batteries in my tank bag).
- I've tried multiple mounts, and settled on the side of my lid for best all-around mount. It doesn't interfere with raising your visor, and if you place it well, and use the 127° (instead of the 170°) field of view, you really don't get your helmet in the shot). Additionally, the POV perspective always worked best for me. Gives you more of "being there" feel for the viewer.
- I filmed this at the Dragon, on a Ghost, in 127° FOV, 1080, side helmet mount. However, I think I uploaded in 720 for space consideration: The Dragon - VStrom rally - YouTube
This was edited in Corel VideoStudio x6.
- Careful about the SDHC card you use. Make sure it's within the capacity recommended for the cam, or you get wonky results.
- Don't lose the optional back with the waterproof plug openings because it's a bitch to find a replacement.
- The wrist remote is a joke. Lots of nice big blinking LED lights, but has a short battery life, and is basically a pain. Better to use the Drift app on your phone (assuming you attach your phone to an X-Grip or something on your handlebars, as I do).

Good luck with the cam. Good unit, but like most, could use a bit of tweaking here and there.
 

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buying the camera and shooting footage is the easy part. Editing the video to a finished product is tedious, time consuming, computer intensive..... and utterly necessary.

I've owned action cams for 6 years now and have compiled about 2 terrabytes of video. I can tell you that the vast majority is boring run-of-the-mill stuff that is basically unwatchable. But the finished videos.... well I can enjoy those over and over because I included only the most interesting bits.

My point is that if you don't spend the time and effort to learn how to edit the video your camera purchase will ultimately result in tons of unedited video which you will quickly lose interest in.

Editing is THE most important part of the whole endeavor.
That is so true. I am shooting in highest definition(gopro silver) and still loosing quit a bit after editing and uploading to youtube. My videos start out perfectly clear and detailed, then the final product pixelates/goes blurry at random times. I have yet to figure out what I am doing wrong and it's driving me nuts.
 

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BKP, your video seems to suffer the same issues as mine(except not as bad)...I think it's Youtube that messes it up. I shoot videos of my wife's property's that are for sale...she is a Real Estate Broker:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9sLFTIhKpo
Well, you need to adjust the settings on YouTube as well. YouTube tends to default to about 480p. There is a setting in the lower right part of the screen (gear icon), that allows you to up the resolution on the vid you're watching.
So, it doesn't matter what you shoot it at, if you leave the YouTube res at default.
 

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Ahhhhha..thanks I had not noticed that. There is a lot to learn...but I am getting there. Sheesh...sure looks better in 1080 ;)
 

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Get used to riding with it... what mounting options work best, getting used to removing it when you walk away from the bike, record/recharge nuances, and the editing for self or wibbly world.
 
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