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What should the price be for used stuff? I know it depends on the item. I’ve made some offers for used Vstrom stuff at about 50 percent off the new price. Adds don’t say firm. Some people get all pissed off, instead of just saying thanks, but no or making a counter offer. One item was still in the box according to seller, but 5 years old and the pics he sent were terrible. I still thought 50 percent off was a good starting point for an offer. Guy got so pissed, he acted like he wanted to fight me and the item had been for sale for over 2 months. Why do people get so offended, it’s just an offer.
 

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Depending on the item and/or it's condition, 50% might be too low. There are always those that think they should re-coupe 90% of value and there is not much to be done except throw them and offer.

If I want something used, and the price + shipping is fair compared to new, then I don't even negotiate, I just buy it. If the price is way high I don't even bother making an offer.
 

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You are for sure low balling, but it does depend on item/age/condition/shipping and such. Who cares if somebody gets upset with you, you'll never see them. ;)
 

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50%? If you go off the new retail price, that isn't an offending offer. Going off market price ( what you can actually buy that item new for ) then 50% might be a lowball. All depend on condition and how it ages. Certain things just don't sell well used. But something like the windshield you have been pining for or luggage and brackets to fit your Strom that are in really nice condition are worth more than 50%. But don't forget shipping costs, which are expensive for larger items if you don't have a commercial account. Since most new stuff is now expected to ship for free, that has to be considered into your offer. If it is going to cost $50 to ship a windshield, why pay $120 for it when a new one is $180?
 

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I'm with you - I usually look for about 50%. Sometimes I've paid more if it's in really good condition and there aren't many available used.
 

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I’m picky about buying used so I’ll look for at most 50%, unless it’s something with say 500 miles on it the owner didn’t like I could see paying closer to 75% if it’s an item that never goes on sale and a local pick up
 

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Thanks for the input everyone. Just to be clear, it was not anyone on this site that got mad at my offers, it was craigslist. I usually just give stuff away or sell it dirt cheap, but maybe that’s why I don’t have much, lol. I think I will continue to use 50% off MSRP as a starting point for my offers, unless they say firm. Some people don’t mind spending weeks and months selling something, not me, I want it gone now.
 

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In some cases, just because it takes a while to sell something, it doesn't mean the price is too high. It can mean no one looking wants it, unless it's cheap. Some higher price items do need to wait on someone who is really looking for it, not just a crowd who will take it off your hands for less than it's worth. I think it varies from item to item, the people involved and timing. I've sold many things at 50% or less, but if it was almost new or unused by me, I've asked closer to what it actually cost. That buyer usually comes along.
 

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Like the others, used is used and 50% is a reasonable offer.
I've made low ball on most of the stuff I found here and most guys counter offer and we come to a price the seller will accept and I buy the item.
Some folks think their lead is gold and have a hard time parting with unwanted stuff.
Other times I know the price is already great and send my paypal right away and forget to give them my address. I just get too excited sometimes.
 

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Expecting normal wear and tear I would completely agree that 50% is a good starting point for a used item that is over a year old and usually will price my items with that in mind. If the condition is better than expected for an item of that age then I would go up and worse go down. If the item is essentially new (seller purchased, found it didn't fit properly) then I could see going significantly higher. In pricing the product I think a lot of sellers overlook the fact that...

a) your buying from a complete stranger so, if there is an issue, there is little recourse. A new item purchased from a store will typically have some type of warranty and/or return policy.
b) many products degrade over time (e.g. elastic on clothing, rubber seals etc.). Even an item that is "brand new, never used, tags still on it" but is five years old may have some life taken out of it.
c) the second hand markets have very different dynamics than the primary market and the laws of supply and demand still apply (think about the price of sports events tickets when scalped on the second hand market)

It is interesting how emotional people can get when selling items. A couple of years ago I decided very last minute to join some friends on an organized century bike ride. Entries had been sold out for months as it was an event that would sell out early each year. However, they did have an online mechanism for participants to sell their entry should they not be able to ride (due to unforeseen conflicts, injury etc.). My decision to join them was literally the day before and only if I could get a ticket for $40 or less. Entries were originally $100 but that was what it was worth to me. When I went to the site, there was about 15 sellers and I went about contacting a number of them with my offer. Many of the responses ranged from downright indignation to caustic disbelieve that I would even think of offering such a low price. That said, I did purchase an entry from a fellow who was very glad to recoup at least some of his cost. He understood that the tickets would be worthless in about 12 hours once the event started as there were competing sellers and not many buyers out there at this late stage of the game.
 

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when I have used parts I want to get rid of I will usually price them at 50% of new. if someone offers me less I wouldn't be offended. I may go for it or I may not.
 

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What should the price be for used stuff?///////////////////////Guy got so pissed, he acted like he wanted to fight me and the item had been for sale for over 2 months. Why do people get so offended, it’s just an offer.
I see bikes on here, all the time, priced way more than what the market is bearing. They rarely sell. Bikes that are fairly priced may sell, but the conundrum is, where is the bike located, from you. What are the laws, between your state and the seller's? On top of the asking price, how much additional money/time will be invested (travel, lien on title) for the buyer to take possession/ownership?
There's a bike currently on the classifieds, that has low mileage that is priced fairly for this time of the season. It's a 1500 mile round trip for me, lien on title, in need of recall work(?)plus investigating how to legally get it home.
Another member suggested paying about $400 to get it shipped, adding to the price. There's no way I'd buy, without seeing or having a pro inspection(additional expense.).
One of the bikes I'm currently riding, I bought a year and a half ago, from a Pa. forum member. about 40 miles away. It was in great shape and low miles, with Eager Beaver parts and wiring, luggage, skid plate, center stand, etc.. I paid what a lot of current sellers are asking for the equivalent and more, now. (Click on my signature, Vicki)
I sold a 650 a few years back, off the forum. I asked a more than fair price and sold it in a couple of days. I even held it for three months, with a $500 deposit, till the member returned to Pa. from Fla.
That's some of the good and bad, about the forum classifieds. I feel if a member uses the classifieds here, they should treat buyers as a brother, not a CL stranger
 
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