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Practicing In The Parking Lot This Morning - Might've Broke My Foot

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I was practicing well all morning with slow-speed maneuvers and, just before leaving, decided to do some more rolling full-lock U-turns. I drove back in 3rd gear to the parking spots that I use to do these, downshifting to 1st as I approached the first one. Only I wasn't in 1st - I was in Neutral and didn't realize it.

So I eased in at about 8 mph or so and delved into a rolling full-lock U-turn to the right. I had my RPMs up and clutch feathering but by the time I was exiting and needing that that power, it was too late and the bike was on top of me. My right foot was trapped under the bike and I had a hell of a time getting it out.

It hurt like hell but I checked it by moving in all directions and moving my toes and thought maybe it's just banged up with no broken bones. It was in good enough shape to fail twice at lifting it the (Youtube Robert Simmons Bermuda motor officer's way) and had to lift it by "backing" it up. My foot felt fair at this point but I could tell it was swelling inside my boot. Managed to drive about 5-6 miles back home and get my boot off. I might have some of those fine bones in the top instep fractured, or maybe somewhere else.

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I guess when momma gets home we'll have to head up to the hospital for some X-rays.
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Gerald Champion is in Alamogordo, @Wee van Cleef , so you might've gone to another in El Paso. Now, there is William Beaumont Army Medical in El Paso. Went there more than once growing up. Maybe that one?
I worked with a guy in California named Richard "Dick" Foote.

Looking at that diagram that @Big Boy provided, it could be anything from the Talus, Cuboid, and Navicular on down through the Metatarsals.

Momma's home from trabajo. I told her to just go ahead and eat some supper and then we'll head over to Gerald Champion hospital.

After the fall and after I got the bike off my foot, everything was moving but sore, and I could walk, with some pain, through the whole range of motions. But I could feel the swelling coming on. So I just checked it with my wife. Best I can tell it hasn't swollen much if any more since I took the picture I posted, and that was over 2-1/2 hours ago. So, we'll see.
 

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Hopefully you are healed up soon. Sounds awful being pinned by a vstrom
I've dropped it a few times. Always at a stop or nearly so. This is the first time I've been pinned. It tool three tries with my left foot to force it off. Thinking you've got the power to the rear wheel that you need, and leaning into a full lock turn, then finding there's nothing there but asphalt, you just don;t have time for anything.

EDITED TO ADD: About a month ago during a warm late afternoon, I was cruising through this nice, quaint little neighborhood in a neighboring town. I pulled up to a 4-way stop in 1st gear (so I thought). There was a large cool-looking building on my right and there was no traffic anywhere. I was just admiring the building and then decided to make my right turn. Eased out the clutch, gave it a little throttle, and picked my feet up like always. Boom. Down on the right side. Bike was in Neutral. But it was a slow drop where you have time to take your right foot off the peg and you have your leg out there helping, but the inertia wins and down it goes. It's a damn heavy bike, as everyone knows. Within a few seconds a guy pulls up in a pick-up and stops to help. A Harley biker. They seem always to be there when you need them. Weird.
 
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Get well soon amigo!
Yes it was Beaumont. I had to wear a wooden shoe for a long time.
Thanks amigo. Problem is, my temporary motorcycle license expires Nov 20 and I have to take my driving test by then. I guess I'll start all over if I don;t heal up muy pronto. Judging by how I feel and how it looks right now - I'll be starting over.
 

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Ouch! I dropped mine in the backyard doing the same thing. Now I realize that I spend about one tenth of one percent of my riding time doing low speed turns. Basically never. Therefor I don't see any reason to practice doing them. I saw a YouTube vid of a guy dragging his foot pegs while doing slow speed turns and I thought "why"? It's nonsense. Just my opinion.
Here's my thought process. I've been riding 2-wheel machines since I was a kid. Like most. I drove a GS650 around EL Paso for years, never giving a thought to slow-speed maneuvers or even the grave danger in intersections and elsewhere. I rode that bike with the same care as when you're driving your truck...normal. Never had to take a test and never even considered parking lot work.

But now.... now I drive with all the care you can muster or imagine. The low-speed stuff - full lock u-turns, figure 8s, higher speed u-turns (10-15 mph), emergency stops, 2-3mph balancing, all that stuff seems very important to me. During driving down the road, in traffic, in busy parking lots, etc., I can truly notice actual improvement in my skill and I attribute it to that work. But you're right - we rarely make full-lock u-turns, if ever. If we can't turn around in one sweep, we stop and do a 3 point turn. No big deal. I might be seeing the light as you did but I think I'll still find myself in the parking lots doing this or that.
 

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All this pain and swelling in the foot and it's a BROKEN LITTLE TOE! It's at the base so this will cause some pain in the entire foot for a while, they say.


What part of the bike was pushing down on you? How was it breaking free? I almost went down a couple of weeks ago in a remote setting. Like you , very slow speed . The bike was going to go down on a slight downhill. I can't imagine lifting it if it was facing downhill.
Nicad, there's no way man. If that bike went down, tires uphill, no way anybody can lift that. I think I would try to spin it 180 degrees, event if it meant some scratches. Then you could get it up.

My foot was trapped between the footpeg and muffler, as best as I could tell during the melee. I pushed on the seat with my left foot and pulled at the same time and the third time was a charm. Pretty lucky am I - a 570 pound bike and all I suffered was a broken toe. Thank God.
 
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Sorry to hear about your "accidental Neutral" mishap, get well soon (y)
p.s. now IF there only was a great ADV motorcycle that will NEVER - EVER surprise you with a ACCIDENTAL NEUTRAL ?
... good news, yes there is one available 😀 My Honda Africa Twin with DCT (dual clutch transmission) always in gear and (almost) never stall the engine.
When searching for a new bike, Honda's NC750X was on my short list (along with Kawasaki's Versys 650LT). I was seriously considering the DCT model. I scratched the Africa Twin from the list because of price and economy, and because I thought it might be too much bike for a returning rider so long out of practice and experience. I'd consider it seriously now, though, rather than going for the meek 750.

But, in reality, this should never have happened. I was aware of the dangers of missing 1st when gearing down, and even missing 2nd in traffic (with Neutral as the "miss"). I had just had a great morning practice doing all sorts of maneuvers, including rolling full-lock U-turns, and I was just a little too cocky and not paying close enough attention.

I'm paying for it now. The pain and lack of mobility today are my dues. I may forego full-lock maneuvers from here on out. Maybe not. Maybe. Probably. We'll see.
 

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Hope you heal up soon. Sorry to hear about this. What kind of boots were you wearing? I just bought my first pair of motorcycle boots and am wondering if they're going to save my foot when this happens to me!
Thanks JTUP. I was wearing Under Armor boots which are not the best protection (similar to these https://www.amazon.com/Under-Armour...cphy=9030718&hvtargid=pla-1261025862697&psc=1)
They are very light and in fact suffered a small cut in the boot fabric at the big toe. I have other heavier duty work boots but I just happened to be using those that day. I certainly do need some motorcycle boots like @Dado8 shows designed to protect, especially on days doing slow maneuver practice.

@ERockJL The V-Strom is more than capable of doing full-lock turns and U-turns. I do it always with both panniers on and always thought that, once I was completely comfortable doing slow rolling U-turns (full lock of course), I would load the panniers and rear of the bike with gear, and continue practicing. Why? I don;t know other than a quest for complete proficiency. As @PerazziMx14 and @Motorpsychology said or inferred, WHY do we need to do full-lock U-turns? So I'm in a re-evaluation process while I'm on the mend. Maybe I'll continue the slow maneuver practicing and forego the full-lock stuff.
 

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On the subject of boots and protection, I like those Alpinestars mx6 and I also like their Ridge v2 WP model. They have a shorter shank Alpinestars Ridge v2 WP Boots - RevZilla
I'm a low-profile guy - a primer gray type person, so gloves and boots have to be reserved in design and color for me. Protection and functionality is what I'll be looking for.
 

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Hope you heal soon!
I broken my little toe as I accidentally kicked the leg of chair .. I just taped it to the next toe it will eventually stop hurting.
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I broke my left tow 22 years ago by running into a furniture leg and leaving my left little tow pointing out 90 degrees (or very close to it) from my foot. I pushed it back in with some muffled screaming then, just like you did - taped it to the others. My next door neighbor was a nurse practitioner. I called her and she said that's about the best you can do but an x-ray at the hospital is better. I never went and eventually it healed to 100% as far as I can tell.
 

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I laid my bike down yesterday. Low speed coming to a stop. I was examining a ranch complex a valley over and wasn't paying any attention. Next thing you know, she wants to go down to the right. This is after installing a bar riser, so the ergonomics were different and that may have been a factor. My spider sense kicked in and I just ejected myself from the situation. Something banged my right calf, but no bruising or anything at all. A young good 'ol boy (East Mtns) appeared immediately from his pickem up truck and helped me lift Wilma back up. The end of the brake lever snapped off, but the lever was still functional. Rode home, scolding myself with 'don't do that again you @%^&!'
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Glad you're ok, Andy. I've done that a few times - got away from the bike once I realized I can't stop it's downward momentum. This particular instance was different than all the others. It happened so fast and the nature of my practice combined with inattention left my foot down there where it should not have been.

One thing - OEM clutch and brake levers are stocked at your dealers up there, AND... they should not be more than $20. I know - I replaced a bent clutch lever from one fall (Harley biker again!, on the spot like magic, helped me lift the bike) and my dealer had one for 20. OEM.

So how long until you are back in the saddle?
I'm going to get some serious riding boots after ingesting this thread. Thx to all who posted about boots. Right now, I'm wearing heavy hiking chukkas or some old spindly combat boots.
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It's been one week and my foot is still the size of a small football. When they released me from the hospital, the PA said for me to call Monday morn to a podiatrist he listed on the discharge documents. I didn't. So I'm calling this morning, especially after reading @Smokey69 comments about the Jones fracture. Why isn't my swelling going down?

Off Topic: Nowadays, the Doctor is too "busy" (i.e. inundated with subordinate employees), so he sends a Physicians Assistant down to carry his message. Pisses me off. It's now the way of medical practice emboldened and possibly structured by the "Affordable Care Act", which isn;t affordable at all and will become more and more unaffordable as each day passes. Ok, enough, or I'll go full-Newman on you guys and need Kramer to stop me.

Anyway, I really don;t know when I'll be able to ride again, but I will say that, while I always wear an above-ankle boot when riding, I'm going to invest in some more protective gear as in posts above. I say again: There is NO DOUBT in my mind that the "parking lot work" I do, as found on youtube and elsewhere, has dramatically improved my riding skills while just kicking down Main Street and turning wherever. Those of you that practice those low-speed maneuvers will agree with me 100%, I am certain. My fall was a fluke - a combination of cockiness, arrogance, and inattention, but I still want more protection on my feet and ankles. We can;t insulate ourselves completely, but I;m gettin' some dedicated boots!
 

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Your Suzuki dealer will have them or can get them. You may pay less for OEM online, but with shipping and maybe taxes, nah. Check up there at R&S, somebody will have one.
 

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Nope. I walked into my little Suzuki dealer. It's Alamogordo - you've been here, tiny little place and their inventory after this covid (cough) is pitiful. They had one in stock (clutch) and it was a flat $20 plus tax. Something's wrong. 78 bucks is ridiculous
@Wee van Cleef 1000 W. Hwy 70, Alamogordo 88310 575-434-0454 I'm calling them now

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