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So I just picked up a pristine k6 with 8000 miles. The tires are original and still have good tread...but are original, so they will go. My problem is I can't decide how aggressive i should go on the tires I know nothing about dual sport tires :confused:

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This is my first adventure bike, my other is on super-sport DOT race tires and is used to kill knee pucks. This bike will be used for on-road touring and the occasional offroad jaunt. I don't plan to take it up gnarly trails, just farm roads, occasional fire trail or gravel road that I can access without going to jail (I live in Northern VA:thumbdown:) I'd like to be able to feel confident on the loose stuff, but when I get on the road and things get twisty, I'd like the tires to be up for some peg scraping shenanigans.

So I guess I want it all. Good dirt manners, good road grip, decent life and not cost an arm and a leg....Is there such a tire? Can any of you guys who have similar riding manners to myself share your experiences?

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I found the original trail wings to be all that, until the ground gets muddy, then you are toast...

Shinko705 Radials are a great low cost solution as well, and much better on wet ground.
 

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For his riding style, I'd go with something less noisy and aggressive as 705's, like Anakee 3's or Battlewings. Either will have better longevity and will be much quieter on pavement.
I had Anakee 3's and even they were noisier in some situations, than I prefer. When it was done I tried a Dunlop Trailmax rear which did well but as the Battlewing front was wearing so well, I put a matching rear on when the Trailmax hit the wear bars at 11k miles.

Remember too that comfort level is more a function of riding proficiency than tread pattern. My friend took an F800ST on the Trans Lab last year and had no problems with PR 3's.... I see no point in putting anything more aggressive than a 80/20 tire on a 80/20 bike. Unless you like that adventure look - or have some hearing loss. :biggrinjester:
 

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I see no point in putting anything more aggressive than a 80/20 tire on a 80/20 bike.
Thank you for your replies. This statement intrigues me. Ive been doing a lot of reading and I thought the anakee 2 did what im looking for pretty well, now they have been replaced by the anakee3...I love Michelin and use their tires on my sport bikes, but this anakee 3 just doesnt look like it can handle 20% dirt. I certainly hope to get it in 20% dirt. Have you had any experiences that you can share?

As for road manners, it certainly looks like they would do what I need them to do on the road. Noise isn't much of a concern as I ride with plugs or noise blocking headphones. as long as they are not knobby tire vibby, im ok with a little noisier than slicks.
 

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I have a dirt driveway and travel the numerous dirt roads in town ....because, well, they're there! But I don't air down and ride them aggressively. If that's what you want to do, maybe 705's would be a good choice, especially if you're younger and stronger than this retired mason....:beatnik:

Tire selection is another trade-off. I wear plugs on longer than 10 minute errands too, but once I heard what sounded like a worn wheel bearing noise coming from my A 3's, I would always be listening for it.

In my previous post, my buddies' son went on the Trans-lab trip too, on his F650GS fitted with K-60's. He said he couldn't wait to get home and swap them out for something quieter (he chose A-3's). In fairness to K-60's, the narrower width his GS takes don't have the solid center strip that our 150 rears have, so they would be noisier on his bike than a Vstrom.

Everyone's noise tolerance is different. I do suspect that most of us with hybrid tires spend more like 95% of our miles on pavement. Our bikes are certainly designed more for on road than off.
 

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If 80% of your time is going to be on pavement then get a street tire. They will do gravel just fine if you relax and let it wonder a bit. If you want to let it wonder on the street get a off pavement tire. I have K-60's and they work pretty good on pavement untill you twist it up a bit. Can't wait for them to wear out so I can get something differant.
 

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IMO, this bike is heavy enough that any tire that makes it anything more than a sphincter pincher on loose dirt is really going to compromise the on road riding(noise and handling).

Myself I choose a pure road tire and I am thrilled with the handling of them, but I really stick to the pavement 95% of the time.

Conti road attacks were invigorating in the peg scraping category but after wearing out a rear in 4K miles I am now enjoying Michelin PR4 trails.

I think an 80/20 tire in the dirt on this bike equates to equates to 20% satisfaction 80% of the time and 80% satisfaction 20% of the time.

Others may heartily disagree with me but that should be expected on oil and tire questions.
 

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First of all no tire you put on a V Strom short of TKC knobbies or something like a Kenda big block has any real off road traction. All others are a compromise. Which means if you hit any WET stuff like mud or leaves or grass you had better be ready to manhandle the bike.

Some like the Anakee will do better than a street tire in loose surfaces like a fire road or gravel but not anything like a true off road tire.

I rode up Ophir Pass in Colorado with Michelin Pilot Road 4's. It was dry, absolutely no issues with traction. But I have off road experience and picked my track carefully.

If I were to recommend a tire for a new V STrom owner that might like to try some off-pavement excursions I would recommend the Bridgestone Battlewings. Not the Trailwings, I don't care for the front Trailwing on the street. Battlewings have very good street manners, decent loose surface traction ( as long as it is dry ), wear well, and have a good price point.
 

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I like the 705 on the road, it does well in rain and handles very nicely in the corners and on gravel roads it is very predictable and feels solid and is a good choice for me (99% highway with just enough gravel to warrant a dual tire).
 

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If I were to recommend a tire for a new V STrom owner that might like to try some off-pavement excursions I would recommend the Bridgestone Battlewings. Not the Trailwings, I don't care for the front Trailwing on the street. Battlewings have very good street manners, decent loose surface traction ( as long as it is dry ), wear well, and have a good price point.
I have been reading this a lot... are the Trail Wings any better in the dirt and the battlewings are better road tires?

I ask because this weekend I finally got a chance to push the Wee hard on the street. Even with 7 year old (and starting to dry crack) OEM Trails, I was surprised how well it held up to a serious flogging through the twisties. I went out with my usual group of street riders, and after they stopped laughing at what i had shown up on, they couldnt believe that they werent able to out-run me. The tires offered noting in the way of feel...most of the time I had no idea where the front end was, but they always made it through the turn. A lot of peg scraping later, I'm thinking that maybe I wont switch these out right away. I wouldn't try that with a loaded bike, but I think I can get through the winter on em.

Looks like Conti is releasing a TKC70 over the winter?? Looks like it may be worth waiting for. The few review out there from people like CW, seem to like them.

Thoughts?
 

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For the money.......no better tire for these bikes than the Battlewing in my opinion, with the Shinko 705 coming in second place.
 

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I'm gonna go against everyone here and say if you think you want 80/20 skip the Shinko and get the Full-Bore M40's. Higher speed rating and better tread pattern for gravel/dirt.

If your not doing any off-road then sure, get something that works right. I don't know if they make them for this bike but I used Michelin Power 2ct's on my FZ6 that were quite literally amazing. The wet traction they had was unbelievable to me. I rode through rain, sleet and hail.. even a very little snow.

I recently started mounting my own tires and for less than $160 a pair the Full-Bores are a great bargain.... but watch the wet stuff!
 

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I have been reading this a lot... are the Trail Wings any better in the dirt and the battlewings are better road tires?
I would say the front Trailwing might be better in dry dirt/gravel than the front Battlewing. It has a bit more open tread pattern with more edges. But I think the rear is close to a tie, I would say the Battlewing rear tire would grip better in dry dirt. On the street both rear tires are better than most riders. The front Trailwing wears funny on the street and squirms more when leaned over.

Again, you don't need high traction tires on dry surfaces. So dry dirt/gravel can be enjoyed on street oriented tires. When you do get back on pavement they are superior to the more aggressive off pavement tires. The front tire is the one that needs traction. Hit a patch of loose deep sand or gravel and nothing but a knobby will bite into that enough to matter!

I do like the Shinko 705's. Great traction on the street, great in the rain. Better on dirt than a street tire but still worthless in anything wet. They are noisy and I get 3500-4500 miles on a rear 705 so they are out for touring imo.
 

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I'm gonna go against everyone here and say if you think you want 80/20 skip the Shinko and get the Full-Bore M40's. Higher speed rating and better tread pattern for gravel/dirt.

If your not doing any off-road then sure, get something that works right. I don't know if they make them for this bike but I used Michelin Power 2ct's on my FZ6 that were quite literally amazing. The wet traction they had was unbelievable to me. I rode through rain, sleet and hail.. even a very little snow.

I recently started mounting my own tires and for less than $160 a pair the Full-Bores are a great bargain.... but watch the wet stuff!
Thanks for the feedback. I feel the same way about the 2cts I use them on my Street Triple R and they have NEVER let me down. They are up to temp within a few corners, they work miracles in the wet (I've had my knee down on a wet track with them) and cant beat the price. I'm a believer that if they work, why go more expensive?
I'll be honest, this is the first time I've heard of full-bore...are they a tried and tested brand that a street guy like me would have not known about (line heidis) or are they a cheap knockoff like Shinko? Not knocking the 705s, but I've had a bike that came with street Shinkos on it, and they were GODDDD AWFULLLL!
 

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Thank you for your replies. This statement intrigues me. Ive been doing a lot of reading and I thought the anakee 2 did what im looking for pretty well, now they have been replaced by the anakee3...I love Michelin and use their tires on my sport bikes, but this anakee 3 just doesnt look like it can handle 20% dirt. I certainly hope to get it in 20% dirt. Have you had any experiences that you can share?

As for road manners, it certainly looks like they would do what I need them to do on the road. Noise isn't much of a concern as I ride with plugs or noise blocking headphones. as long as they are not knobby tire vibby, im ok with a little noisier than slicks.
I'm running a set of Anakee 3's on my Wee and I would say they inspire confidence both on and off road.

I started on dirt bikes about 44 years ago and would love to go to full knobbies but I can't afford to give any on road advantage to my riding mates, they are on bigger more powerful bikes, the corners and braking are where I make my ground up.

I was very surprised by the off road manners of the 3's and I'm very happy with the on road traction but they do produce some noise, not enough to put me off, just some.

I got less than 10,000 ks from the trailwings and because of the extra traction from the 3's I expect to get less.

My mate fitted a set to his Triumph Bonneville and they improved the off road ability enough that he no longer avoids the dirt, he is still not thrilled about it but he will not go out of his way to avoid it like he did.

If you like Michelin go for it.
 

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I'll be honest, this is the first time I've heard of full-bore...are they a tried and tested brand that a street guy like me would have not known about (line heidis) or are they a cheap knockoff like Shinko? Not knocking the 705s, but I've had a bike that came with street Shinkos on it, and they were GODDDD AWFULLLL!
the full bores are made by Shinko in the same factory (at least thats what I have read) but they are made with a different compound and they have a slightly different tread pattern. I ride them 24/7 and have been able to outride my friend on his ducati monster. YMMV but I quite enjoy them on street. However, the first time you ride a new set at low speeds it will feel like you are riding on marbles, no actual loss of grip though. It was weird and freaked me out when I first got them but I dont even notice now.

For my next set I think I ill import some Mitas E07's from Canada as I keep wanting more and more dirt. I have read they are amazing off-road.

Best of luck in the search, I know how long I waffled on tires :confused:
 

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Hey Rolex-
I think you'll be happily surprised by your A-3 wear. Although my rear tire was pretty squared off by 6k miles, I didn't hit the wear bars until 14k. That's about about 22,500 k!
The front's another story. It was cupping pretty bad by 9,000 miles and I switched it for a Battlewing. That front is still looking new at about 14,000 miles. I was very disappointed by the A-3 front.

Yes, the rear anyway is an excellent tire for our bikes.
 

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Hey Rolex-
I think you'll be happily surprised by your A-3 wear. Although my rear tire was pretty squared off by 6k miles, I didn't hit the wear bars until 14k. That's about about 22,500 k!
The front's another story. It was cupping pretty bad by 9,000 miles and I switched it for a Battlewing. That front is still looking new at about 14,000 miles. I was very disappointed by the A-3 front.

Yes, the rear anyway is an excellent tire for our bikes.
Thanks but most are getting 22,000ks from their Trailwings too, I couldn't even get half of that.

I put it down to the 14t front sprocket and the right hand.
 
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