Placement of automatic chain oiler dispenser tips

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tgeliot

Discussion Starter · 10 mo ago (Edited)

I'm in the process of installing an automatic chain oiler. I'm trying to figure out the best way to attach the end of the very narrow tubing so that it delivers oil into the chain (or into the rear sprocket?). If you have any sort of automatic chain oiler installed on your 'strom, I'd appreciate it if you could post some pictures of what arrangement you have to deliver the oil, and how it's mounted.

I tried to include a link to the unit I bought, but I couldn't get a working link. Sorry.

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Brockie

· #2 · 10 mo ago

Secure the nozzle so that it points downwards in line with the outer edge of the sprocket, but not touching it, just before where the return run of the chain engages on the lower part of the sprocket.
This is the Tutoro on my Versys. I managed to hide the bottle (for protection) behind the passenger peg plate without coming into contact with the chain guard under shock absorber compression. Not a good representation of the dual feed delivery nozzle as the bike had been backed up onto the main stand.
The tube runs forward from the reservoir to near the swingarm pivot and then zip tied to the inside of the swingarm.
The single feed nozzle on my DL650 works just as well.
I highly recommend the Tutoro as it has no electrical or vacuum connections.

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BackPacker

· #3 · 10 mo ago

I have the ScottOiler Vsystem (vacuum operated). My nozzle arrangement is similar to @Brockie. There is a special V-Strom edition of this system that has a holder for the nozzle that conveniently screws into an empty bolt hole at the end of the swingarm. You then bend the holder so that the nozzle is just in contact with the rear sprocket.

My reservoir is hidden under the rear right fairing (under my right buttock, more or less). There's just enough space there to zip-tie it to a frame member and I can even fill the reservoir and adjust it without removing the fairing. But it's tight. The reason I did this is that my bike is sometimes parked on the street in big cities, and I want to make things as un-noticeable as possible to prevent fiddling/vandalism.

hugo.atx

· #4 · 10 mo ago

Before my trip to the French Pyrenees, I mounted my scottoiler xsystem automatic lubrication system. I had it mounted on my old cb500, and decided to put it definitely on the vstrom.

I leave you some pictures.

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PeteW

· #5 · 10 mo ago

I got some thin aluminum bar, bent, drilled and bolted that using the front bolt on the chain guard. Nozzle is irrigation (dripper) tubing held in place with a rivnut through the top of my mount. The thread in the rivnut grips the nozzle really well.
That has a couple of advantages, it's not tricky WRT setup and any oil that misses the chain falls on the chain slider and lubes the underside of the chain, oil gets sucked forwards onto the front sprocket rather than ending up on the rear tire.

richlandrick

· #6 · 10 mo ago

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Tutoro chain oiler install you are proud of

Hi, Got a Tutoro Adventure chain oiler kit coming for my 2020 1050XT. Rather than re-invent the wheel, I thought I'd ask those who have gone through this if they can share pics of how and where they installed all the bits. Thanks in advance.

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tgeliot

Discussion Starter · #7 · 10 mo ago

hugo.atx said:
Before my trip to the French Pyrenees, I mounted my scottoiler xsystem automatic lubrication system. I had it mounted on my old cb500, and decided to put it definitely on the vstrom.
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How is that attached to the swingarm? I can't quite make it out.

Thanks!

tgeliot

Discussion Starter · #8 · 10 mo ago

PeteW said:
I got some thin aluminum bar, bent, drilled and bolted that using the front bolt on the chain guard. Nozzle is irrigation (dripper) tubing held in place with a rivnut through the top of my mount. The thread in the rivnut grips the nozzle really well.
That has a couple of advantages, it's not tricky WRT setup and any oil that misses the chain falls on the chain slider and lubes the underside of the chain, oil gets sucked forwards onto the front sprocket rather than ending up on the rear tire.

Thanks, but I'm having a hard time picturing this. Does it drip onto the upper run of the chain, just behind the front sprocket? A picture would help a lot!

Thanks

Snowfan

· #9 · 10 mo ago

Depends on year....Fort9 chain lube video....chain lube is partly old school. I just cleaned and lubed my 2020 wee chain and looks like only outer cleaning. Lube may only work on older chains. Recent are internal lube. Fix me if I am wrong. I am heading out next week 2K miles half on dirt.

tgeliot

Discussion Starter · #10 · 10 mo ago

Snowfan said:
Depends on year....Fort9 chain lube video....chain lube is partly old school. . . .

I sympathize with this perspective. I, too, have wondered exactly what we think we're lubricating when we lubricate our chains. One thing that occurs to me is that we're lubricating the contact between the chain and sprockets. But does that matter? Don't axe me (as Mrs. Borden said to Lizzie).

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PeteW

· #11 · 10 mo ago

Matters, I used to get around 12,000k's from chain and sprockets, my DL1000 now has over 70,000k's, front sprocket has been changed. I couldn't believe the parts could last that long so I was preparing to change everything and the only sign of minor wear was the front sprocket. And it was minor wear, chain and rear sprocket were indistinguishable from the new parts I had on hand.

That's longer than the average life span of a BMW shaft drive.

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PeteW

· #12 · 10 mo ago (Edited)

tgeliot said:
Thanks, but I'm having a hard time picturing this. Does it drip onto the upper run of the chain, just behind the front sprocket? A picture would help a lot!

Thanks

A picture is worth a lot of words. I was planning on doing a better job later but this worked so well I never needed to.
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. Pit bike fuel filter cuts oil use a lot because the oil goes through that one drop at a time. The top of the bracket had a rivnut inserted (I THINK 6mm) and that meant I could thread PVC dripper tubing into that. The rest is just tube I had around to make connections between various sized pieces. Note that there aren't masses of oil anywhere. Front sprocket area gets oily and some flows from there around the back of the engine cases. Less messy than most options. Chain had a recent wipe with a paper towel so it's looking cleaner than it normally would.

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tgeliot

Discussion Starter · #13 · 10 mo ago

PeteW said:
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Pit bike fuel filter cuts oil use a lot because the oil goes through that one drop at a time.

I saw where you said this in some earlier post, and I thought it was in the context of you using the same oiler that I bought (handlebar mounted). I went all over trying to find an oil filter that would fit that very tiny tubing, with no luck. But here I see you have slightly larger tubing.

Where does one find a fuel filter this size? I didn't find any like this.

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PeteW

· #14 · 10 mo ago

eBay, search for really cheap fuel filters.

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These are for mini-bikes and almost useless there, here they work just fine. That big lump at the bottom is an offcut of silicone tubing I had around, the upper section is just PVC tubing from the local hardware store.

And yes, I am using the same bar mounted oiler now. I used to make my own but those GidaiII/Cobra's are inexpensive, easier to mount and easier to plumb in. The hard line from the handlebar mounted thing slips inside the clear PVC about a foot further up. What I did was just the easiest way for me to get the pit bike filter in there.

That filter isn't essential, but it does avoid dumping splodges of oil onto the chain all at once which means more ends up on the chain, less in unwanted places.

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Brockie

· #15 · 10 mo ago

I still have difficulty working out how these Cobra Nemo oilers work.
You fill the container with oil and dispense the oil by turning the reservoir cap 90 or 180 degrees, depending on how much oil you want. However, unscrewing the cap is how you refill the container.
So what actually does turning the cap a quarter turn open achieve? You open the cap and then close it. Oil flows for a while. How?

After reading the instructions on the AU site I am no better informed, and AU$195? Wow. You can, or could, buy a Tutoro for that.

hugo.atx

· #16 · 10 mo ago

tgeliot said:
How is that attached to the swingarm? I can't quite make it out.

Thanks!

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tgeliot said:
How is that attached to the swingarm? I can't quite make it out.

Thanks!

To place it, I used a piece of cork and plastic bridles. The cork is to prevent the plastic bridles from scratching the metal or the paint. The plastic bridles hold the device very well and the result is what you see. Very satisfactory.

BackPacker

· #17 · 10 mo ago

Close-up of the ScottOiler dispenser on my '02 DL1000.

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Can't show you the reservoir as it's hidden behind the rear right panel. But it's basically a tube with three hoses coming out of it: One oil line to the dispenser, one to a vacuum pickup on the rear cylinder, and a breather hose.

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tgeliot

Discussion Starter · #18 · 10 mo ago

Brockie said:
I still have difficulty working out how these Cobra Nemo oilers work.
You fill the container with oil and dispense the oil by turning the reservoir cap 90 or 180 degrees, depending on how much oil you want. However, unscrewing the cap is how you refill the container.
So what actually does turning the cap a quarter turn open achieve? You open the cap and then close it. Oil flows for a while. How?

After reading the instructions on the AU site I am no better informed, and AU$195? Wow. You can, or could, buy a Tutoro for that.

Assuming the Cobra Nemo oiler is the same as I have (which was only USD $30 on ebay), there are two sets of threads. The threads on top are the obvious thing, they hold the cap on. But then there's an internal set of threads that enlarge or reduce the capacity of the reservoir. So the 90 or 180 degree turn is affecting those second threads, and forcing some oil out.

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PeteW

· #19 · 10 mo ago

Brockie said:
I still have difficulty working out how these Cobra Nemo oilers work.
You fill the container with oil and dispense the oil by turning the reservoir cap 90 or 180 degrees, depending on how much oil you want. However, unscrewing the cap is how you refill the container.
So what actually does turning the cap a quarter turn open achieve? You open the cap and then close it. Oil flows for a while. How?

After reading the instructions on the AU site I am no better informed, and AU$195? Wow. You can, or could, buy a Tutoro for that.

The container is double walled and sealed by the cap on the top with only a small hole at the base of the outer section. When you wind the cap down oil is pushed up and out of the central section, flows through some holes near the top, back down and out a hole in the bottom of the outer section. It's very clever because it's positive pressure and the oil doesn't dribble out without turning the cap.

In my case I'm twisting the cap maybe 1/8th of a turn each time. 180 degrees would dump a LOT of oil at once, admitted I use the pit bike fuel filter to spread the drops out but I'd have thought more than 1/4 turn (90 degrees) would be overkill anyway.

When it's empty, unscrew the cap completely, refill and put the cap back on without winding it down far. You don't need to do that often but it's easy and convenient. One refill I'd guess would last me around 5000 km, possibly more.

Buy one on eBay (GidaiII), they used to be ~$50. (Just checked, still are).

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r60rider

· #20 · 10 mo ago

The last image before this post is what I run on my 2011 DL650. Set for a drop of oil every 40 seconds, using Scottoiler oil. As to if its worthwhile, this is my first chain bike in 40 plus years ( put 536,000 on a shaft drive BMW). The first three chains lasted +- 12,000 miles and were lubed with various sprays every 300 miles or so. I replaced the sprockets with each chain.

The Scottoiler is four years old. Same chain and sprocket set. I just changed it because the drive sprocket was starting to hook, rear sprocket was fine, and when I dissected the chain it was too (I had not adjusted it since the 600 mile adjustment after installation). This was at 46,000 miles, and I’m right pleased with the setup. I add oil every thousand miles. Don’t have to remember to turn a knob. I just ride. BTW adding oil takes less than a minute.

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