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I put the Givi windscreen on yesterday. I wasn't aware that the rubber grommets ARE the screw holders, so I used just a touch of blue locktite since they screws seemed loose and the ones on my boxer used to come loose all the time. Anyhow, I decided I wanted to lower the screen a bit, and of course, I can't, because the rubber grommets are spinning round in their holes when I try to loosen the screws. I will likely leave it as it is, I got used to it while riding, but anyone have any good ideas about how to get myself out of THIS one? I guess replace the grommets, eh? Does Suzuki sell them?
 

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I put the Givi windscreen on yesterday. I wasn't aware that the rubber grommets ARE the screw holders, so I used just a touch of blue locktite since they screws seemed loose and the ones on my boxer used to come loose all the time. Anyhow, I decided I wanted to lower the screen a bit, and of course, I can't, because the rubber grommets are spinning round in their holes when I try to loosen the screws. I will likely leave it as it is, I got used to it while riding, but anyone have any good ideas about how to get myself out of THIS one? I guess replace the grommets, eh? Does Suzuki sell them?
The well nuts are Suzuki part #09159-05019 and cost a ridiculous $3.50 each. I bought a few at my local hardware store for $0.65 each when I installed my MadStad bracket.
 

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Well Nuts

Rev,

I'm going to order 4 of the nuts and prepare to ruin the ones I have. Are you sure on the number I get that part as a rear tail nut

NUT, SEAT TAIL COVER BRACKET (09159-05019 )

I would never doubt you -- just making sure before I order them and upgrade to a windshield that DOESN'T have this black rim.
 

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Be very careful with the loctite near plastic as damage can occur. I remember from my days on the Blackbird forums when one owner used loctite to secure his windshhield bolts and came out the next day to see cracks in the fairing where it met the body panels. I don't know if blue was the bad one or not, but I now stay away from loctite unless the application is metal to metal. I have found a dab of RTV Sealant on the threads when attaching near plastic has worked well, especially for vibration prone areas.
 

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I can back up the caution of using Loctite around plastic parts.

I work for a materials handling manufacturer. We had to do a recall recently when the mere fumes of Loctite cause a sensitive pressure sensr to crack and fail. The the locker was used between a metal screw and mounting surface to hold the plastic devise. Minimal contact if any from the locker cause the plastic to crack after assembly.

The sensitivity varies depending on the specific plastic and locker, but use caution!!!
 

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Re: Well Nuts

mattpeyton said:
Rev,

I'm going to order 4 of the nuts and prepare to ruin the ones I have. Are you sure on the number I get that part as a rear tail nut

NUT, SEAT TAIL COVER BRACKET (09159-05019 )

I would never doubt you -- just making sure before I order them and upgrade to a windshield that DOESN'T have this black rim.
Yep. Go to the Ron Ayers Fiche and look for yourself:
http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/300_0355/cowling_body/cowling_body.cfm?man=su&groupid=230&parent=210
 

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Mattpeyton, I wouldn't say officially stupid just yet. You just found a new way to increase your learning curve and knowledge base. From the last few comments I now know enough to stay away from plastic with loctite.
 

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You're never officially stupid until you make the same mistake twice, make it three times.....
 

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Happy Ending!

And not even after a rub down. :lol:

I got my windshield off, by turning the screws slightly FASTER causing the rubber grommets to act as an anchor. I cleaned out the little buggers and re-installed the stock windshield. I liked the Givi -- boy was it quiet! but it's a little too tall for me. I've ordered a Cali Scientific windshield in a short size (which is still 4.5 inches taller than stock) and a lucky StromTrooper got a good deal on the Givi.

I learned a bit from this - in New York City, it's important to be taller than your screen, as the road surfaces are SO bad that it's important to have a clean view of what your about to run over. I will try the Cali Scientific and let you all know.
 
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