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I'm about to buy an 07 ABS and I want to get a set of aluminum side cases. Ideally not too difficult to install, big capacity, not horrible amounts of wind drag. What are the favorites? I see the Touratech Zegas mentioned a few times. Anything people feel is better?
 

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Jesse Bags are the best.

Touratechs are just fine, so are the ones from Happy Trails. But not even close to the quality and features of Jesse.
 

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Got an order in for the TT Zegas 41L for my 06 DL1000. After many many sleepless nights of trying to determine which setup, I went with:

1. Aluminum
2. Large Size
3. Price
4. Looks

Plastic bags like the Givis don't give the bike that ADV feel.

Smaller bags are too small for what I carry.

The Jesse bags are too expensive. TTs are just right.

The TT Zegas look the cleanest for an aluminum style bags (did not like the H&B aluminum looks with the ridged corners).

As far as quality, I think all the Al bags are about the same quality (TTs, Happy Trails, Jesse, H&B).

I'll post pics when they come in. Oh yah, one drawback to the TTs is... so far its taken a while to get them (they have a reputation as being 'slow' to get - always on back order).

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The Jesse's have got to be the most aerodynamic of the bunch - if you can call ANY big, metal box aerodynamic. However, after checking their website, it looks like you can't get a set for the forseeable future at any price unless they're for a BMW.
The Zegas are made from slightly thinner material than the HT's or Jesse's. This would make them slightly lighter but, maybe, not as durable.
I went with Happy Trails for several reasons. I already had GIVI E41's from my old Concours so I only needed the GIVI mounts for my Wee and I had side bags. Later, I started thinking about something more ADV worthy. I was able to buy the HT racks and mount my GIVI bags to them. This gave me a little more time to save my pennies and buy their boxes at a later date. Now, I can use either bags depending on my needs. It takes less than 5 minutes to make the swap. I also liked the then new hinge design on the HT boxes. Lastly, Happy Trail offers the black powder coat option. I could be wrong but I don't believe this is available on the others.
 

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The Zegas are made from slightly thinner material than the HT's or Jesse's. This would make them slightly lighter but, maybe, not as durable.
Right you are as I just now checked the specs for the TTs:

TTs: 1.5mm
HTs: 0.80" (~2mm)
Jesse: Bottom = 2mm, lid = 1.5mm

Hmmmm, I swear I considered this variable in my late night ruminations. Oh well, would have preferred "tougher" cans, but, yes, perhaps I'm saving some weight.

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Best value= Happy Trails
Longest waiting list= Touratech
Most Problems= Jesse luggage ( Also close to #1 for waiting list, if you have problems with your item, toooooooo Bad, go back to end of line)

Granted there does appear to be happy Jesse customers somewhere, and I just read 3 that are here.
I just ordered a set of Happy trail 7.5" Targhees, and had them install a custom set of latches, which I ordered and sent to them. The determination to go with happy trails was made after 4 months of research. If you choose to do some of your own research this is a very good place to start:
http://11109.rapidforum.com/area=85
 

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Yeah, I just read that on the Touratech site.

I looked at the Happy Trails and from the pictures on the 650 it looks like they don't mount symmetrically (?!) - the left bag is tight to the fender and the right bag juts out to accommodate the pipe. Imho that's pretty lame.

So to sum up:
Touratechs don't fit the 650
Happy Trails don't appear to fit the 650 (at least what I'd consider "fit")
Jesses have problems and you can't get them anyway.

What about using the SW Motech rack with something, like the Hepco Becker cases? Can you get THOSE cases, or are they impossible too? :)

And then maybe I should just bail on the metal cans and get the factory luggage. It looks pretty decent in the one photo I've seen of it. I doubt I'm going to do all that much off-roading (like, probably a dirt road on occasion).

Argh - I wish it was easier to figure all this out...
 

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.......I looked at the Happy Trails and from the pictures on the 650 it looks like they don't mount symmetrically (?!) - the left bag is tight to the fender and the right bag juts out to accommodate the pipe. Imho that's pretty lame....
Huh?!



They look pretty symmetrical to me.
 

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Hmm - I was looking at the photo on Happy Trails' site:
http://happy-trail.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=PANKIT-DL650-OW

They look shoved over to the right.

What rack are you using - Happy Trails?

You like 'em?
Yes, it's the Happy Trail rack. I think the angle in that pic on their site does give the illusion, though. Funny. The whole time I've owned them I've kind of wished that they were off-set like some I've seen for the BMW F650's. HT offers my boxes in 3 widths and I always thought that sucking the left side rack into the bike more would let me use a wider box on the left so that the outer dimensions of both boxes would still be equidistant from the CL of the bike. That way, the overall width of the bike would be reduced and there wouldn't be all that wasted space on the left, we all seem to be filling up with our home-made storage tubes. Granted, I'd have less overall storage volume. Anyway, I really like their rack set-up. Knowing what I know now, if I were starting all over, even if I was never planning on using AL boxes, I'd get the HT racks to mount GIVI boxes. They mount the bags about 4" farther back than the GIVI or Suzuki mounts which gives more room for a pillion's legs/feet. They are definitely more expensive - about twice - but their flexibility makes them worth it IMHO.
 

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Yeah, I just read that on the Touratech site.

I looked at the Happy Trails and from the pictures on the 650 it looks like they don't mount symmetrically (?!) - the left bag is tight to the fender and the right bag juts out to accommodate the pipe. Imho that's pretty lame.

So to sum up:
Touratechs don't fit the 650
Happy Trails don't appear to fit the 650 (at least what I'd consider "fit")
Jesses have problems and you can't get them anyway.

What about using the SW Motech rack with something, like the Hepco Becker cases? Can you get THOSE cases, or are they impossible too? :)

And then maybe I should just bail on the metal cans and get the factory luggage. It looks pretty decent in the one photo I've seen of it. I doubt I'm going to do all that much off-roading (like, probably a dirt road on occasion).

Argh - I wish it was easier to figure all this out...

You could try the cheap way and do the pelicans, but you need the mounts, ebay perhaps. Anyway during my 4 month search I saved the really, really, to good to be true....pelican link.
http://www.all-pelican-cases-4-less.com/detail_pelican_1430.html

And I do concur with Tim about the asemtrical design that could be used on the 650. I know HT offers a larger bag on the left side for the BMW crowd. There is so much room for improvement by all manufactures for out Strom bags, but until AVFT/Stroms take off in america like it has in europe, the Strom crowd will be in the back.
I did speak to this guy from germany, and they do plan on adding Aluminum Panniers for the strom early this year, now weather that will be the 1000, or the 650 I cannot be sure, but what ever they are going to make, I am sure it will blow the other 3 companies away. I am very impressed with the visual craftsmanship, give them a call, but, when production starts, don't drag your ass. I am sure they will have back orders.
http://www.roger.rosegum.de/
 

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I think I'll pursue the Happy Trails - I like the look, the price is fair, and people seem to like 'em.

I'm sure the Pelicans are great but I just don't dig the look.
 

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In 04 when I picked up my 6Fiddy I ordered a set of Jesse panniers. . . . Back then the mounting system/sideracks didn't bolt up anywhere near symetrical. Had to bend one blinker in just to get the rack on. In a nutshell not so good even though the bags themselves are a quality product.

As a result of Jesse's "customer service" (coughcough) I ended up returning the "kit" and purchasing a set of the Clearcoated Teton 7.5 HTs.

In more than two years of use I've had zero issues. I filled the spare space on the non-exhaust side with a chunk of 4" ABS for water and maps and chain lube.
 

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Looks great!

I thought the Targhees had little jogs in below the pipe, like in this photo:


I like the idea of the extra space, though it's a tough call whether they look better with or without the jog.
 

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Back in 04 I paid USD $ 771 for the whole kit...delivered to my doorstep. I think the prices have gone up a bit since then!
 

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I'm curious why nobody has mentioned the bags from moto-sportpanniers.com? I've spoken with Ed on the phone and these sem to be a really viable alternative to the regular suspects.
Dave in Portland
 
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