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Hi, I'm a newbie, just looking for my first bike. V-Stroms look really sweet and a friend pointed me to these forums. I'm excited to buy something. I've been looking on craigslist for v-stroms since I decided it's the bike for me. I see several for sale. They are all significantly higher than the online kelly blue book dealer price for that year. My question is, is this reasonable or are these guys trying to cheat me? For example, I see a 2005 DL650 for $4700. Looks like a nice bike, what do I know? I look on Kelly and it says $3440 in excellent condition when purchasing from a dealer. He's not alone in asking such a high price. I see it here on these forums and elsewhere. My question is, am I expected to counteroffer super low and end up near blue book, or is kelly smoking crack, or what? I don't want to be a cheapskate and also don't want to get cheated here. :confused:
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Wealthy, if you is wealthy, don't worry your head about price.
I got my 04 a few years back, really clean example. The guy advertised for more than blue book and when I countered with the blue book value, he said OO-TAY! and I got the bike.
You've done the homework, time to try the shopping. Good luck.
 

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If your not in a hurry Jan. thru. Mar. you'll get the best price.
Look where it snows the prices go down there in the winter.
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A bike will bring what a bike will bring. Some of them will bring over book because of a specific area and demand, some won't bring book. At best its a guide. If you look at NADA you will see different numbers.
Buying a bike is like anything else, a seller tries to get everything he thinks its worth and a buyer tries to get it for as little as he can. If you don't like the price make what you think is a reasonable offer. Worst that happens is he says no.
When I sell a bike I look at what they seem to be going for in my area, the book and come up with a price. I price it slightly high so people can make an offer because people just don't seem happy if they can't bargain you down a little. Since I don't need to sell anything I just blow the low ballers off.
The people I've sold bikes to end up paying about top dollar for the model because mine are always very clean and usually very low mile and they end up paying about 50% of the value of the things I've done to it, otherwise they can go somewhere else and buy somebody elses bike.
 

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supply and demand

if he same bike is on sale at much the same price for too long, its overprice for the demand at that point in time. There is not much demand for used bikes, especially geezer bikes like the DL650/1000 series

I dropped my price to 3,000 for a 2007 Wee in very good condition, 25,000 miles, in October 2013, Oakland, CA.
 

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KBB seems low for Cali but high for places with winter

If you have money just keep camping on craigslist (searchtempest), cycle trader and eventually there will be an OK deal to jump on
 

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if he same bike is on sale at much the same price for too long, its overprice for the demand at that point in time. There is not much demand for used bikes, especially geezer bikes like the DL650/1000 series

I dropped my price to 3,000 for a 2007 Wee in very good condition, 25,000 miles, in October 2013, Oakland, CA.
Maybe where you are, here the 650 sells pretty well used. The 1000 is a slower seller. Your bike would be underpriced here.
 

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Buying a bike is like anything else, a seller tries to get everything he thinks its worth and a buyer tries to get it for as little as he can.
+1. These threads always amuse me. There's nothing Strom-specific about understanding how negotiation works (and why it sometimes doesn't).

And I say that as a guy who has always overpaid because he gets excited and forgets that he's in a negotiation. :beatnik:
 

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+1. These threads always amuse me. There's nothing Strom-specific about understanding how negotiation works (and why it sometimes doesn't).

And I say that as a guy who has always overpaid because he gets excited and forgets that he's in a negotiation. :beatnik:
That's pretty much my philosophy too. Buy high and sell low. I have heard its more profitable the other way around but I seem to have trouble getting there.:green_lol:
 

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So far, selling my Harley has been an exercise in frustration, though I realize it's a bad time of year. Priced below KBB. Not even one of those "you must be kidding" kind of offers. At this rate, I'll just hang onto it and use it as a trade in for an FJR. For some reason, getting the trade in value from a dealer doesn't seem as bad as getting the same amount of money as a private sale offer.
 

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I live in Northern CA also and found the same thing you did... KBB retail prices plus for private party deals. It sounds like this is area specific and you don't see many used Stroms for sale around here. I kept seeing prices on this forum and thought "I would pay that".
I finally paid retail price + for an 04 Wee ($3k). I couldn't be happier with the bike but I am not used to paying retail or more for a private party purchase. But if you can get the farkles you want with the deal (which don't really add to the price), that can save you some dough. Once you get the bike, you forget what you paid and move on.
Good luck!
 

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KBB assumes a bone stock bike in good condition. Lots here have lavished love upon their bike and spent a small fortune on accessories. So when selling, many try to get a portion of the farkle money back...that's all.

If the bike has a custom seat that fits you and a nice pannier set up...pay more. You will need this stuff.
 

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Thanks! Bought a weestrom

Found a good deal I guess/think/hope/have no idea on a 2005 Wee Strom for $2500 with 60k miles on it. I forgot to turn on reply notifications for my post so I did so without reading any of your excellent advice. I'm very happy iwth my bike so far. :hurray: Thanks for all your thoughts. Great forum!
 

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rather than start a similar thread...

Great thread. I am pretty much convinced to sell my VS800 Intruder and go with a V-Strom 650. here in Indy I see an 09 with 29kmiles for $5k (tail trunk) and an 05 with tail and side bags, hand guards, highway pegs, 24k miles for $4700. Both prices seem high for KBB and NADA. NADA has the '05 at $3500.

I would love to get some input from some of you more versed in the V-strom world given that negotiating is still negotiating :) Do you think those prices are pretty fair?

Mike
 

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I think you should start a new thread, even if it seems redundant. My opinion on those prices is that they are a bit high and yet the market does seem to be above book at least in my area. If you're not in a hurry you'll find a good deal but if you are in a hurry you will have to pay over book I'm sure.
 

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Hard luggage set ups alone can easily cost over 1k new. Scott e bonds is absolutely right, imho. This is a good time of year to be buying a bike, but shitty to be selling. I'm currently working on selling a bunch of accessories from my Versys (which I'll then sell in the spring to make way for my new strom), and it's surprising how much back and forth is required to get rid of each item.
 

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Hard luggage set ups alone can easily cost over 1k new. Scott e bonds is absolutely right, imho. This is a good time of year to be buying a bike, but shitty to be selling. I'm currently working on selling a bunch of accessories from my Versys (which I'll then sell in the spring to make way for my new strom), and it's surprising how much back and forth is required to get rid of each item.
Farkles are a good point. On the buyer side, what I do is try to imagine how much I'd pay for a bike without any farkles, then add on the cost of adding the farkles I'm interested in, depreciated according to their condition on the bike I'm looking at. I then add on the time cost of shopping around and how much I'll pay extra to just get it over with, given how impatient I am. That gives me a fair price above which I will not pay.

BTW I got my top case for $100 which works fine for me. Amazon.com: Extra Large Motorcycle Trunk Top Case for 2 Helmets: Sports & Outdoors You don't have to get top of the line for most uses. This is a weestrom, not a Harley. :)
 

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Great feedback

Thanks for the feedback! I will see how willing the local dealers are to negotiate. I am not in a hurry and my budget will be the final determining factor. If I can't afford to make the switch, then I can't afford to make the switch. Next time I won't be so timid about starting a new thread :)

Thanks again!
 
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