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Hello all,
I 'm currently looking at trading over to a DR 1000 from a Yam. Royal Star TD. For several years I had planned on making a jump to the FJR 1300 but was in a accident recently on a Buell Ulysses XB12X. I flipped the bike at a stop and drove the footpeg into my foot. After a few months of recovery and a surgery later you could say I was bit by the dual sport bug,literally.Ive been researching on the various brands available and seem to keep coming back to the V-Strom. I've sat on one in the show room but have never ridden one. Now I've been on many different types of bikes from Busa's to Binelli's and started out on Honda 50. I live here in Montana and have ridden all over the country on many long distance rides. Ive ridden almost all the paved roads we have here in this state. Many times I've reached the end of the pavement only to turn around and miss the gravel roads that out number paved here 5 to 1 not to mention Forest service roads too. Now I would probably say that I might ,maybe, kinda sorta be looking at 60/40 riding .
Question is, how well does the stock DR1000 transition between paved to non paved. The Buell Ulysses I thought rode terrible on gravel. I've been through many pages on this forum as well as other forums looking for more info and the right key words to convince me that this all purpose V-Strom is a good choice. It seems to be a great value for the money. While others like the BMW GS is way overpriced for me. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

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Eric Larsen
 

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The vee is a good bike and on the pavement it would kick the GS to the ground and take a wee on it hehe:mrgreen:. o the dirt it is pretty confident depending on tire selection. i have done many miles on dirt . But it is worth mentioning that it is a very heavy bike like almost all adventure tourers and as for that it is a pig in thick sand. But i think it is the best value for money. great power and comfortable.

I wont by a BMW but its just a matter of principal with me... is all

good luck on make your choice. hope you are happy ether way
 

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The DL1000 is an adequate dirt road bike. The best way to look at it is the 1000 is a fantastic street bike that can also do dirt roads. It is heavy and the stock tires are awful in even mild mud. There are better tire choices for 60/40 use, but that doesn't change the fact that this is a heavy bike. Don't get me wrong the 1000 is fine on dirt roads, but limited in ability with low ground clearance and expensive plastic pieces ready to break if you lay it down.

If you want a bike that is an amazingly skilled at almost everything you throw at it on the street and also want to ride conservatively on the dirt roads then the DL1000 is a fantastic choice. However, if you want to really explore dirt roads and trails and only need the bike to be comfortable on relatively short rides on the pavement then you'd be better looking at the Honda XR 650 or Suzuki DR o series of bikes.
 

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All large bikes suck in sand. It's doable, but not fun by any means. Unless you have a true dirtbike or light weight actual dual sport like a DRZ, KLX, etc., you'll hate it. Dirt and gravel are a breeze, and even a little mud with the right tires.

The battle of GS vs. Strom has been going on basically since the strom came out. If you type just that in your google search, you'll find pages upon pages of arguments for and against both. The Uly has even been tossed about in those conversations and for good reason (it's a very capable bike...opinion wise...it's not the best or smoothest feeling, but capable) and for whatever reason now the Versey.

Every bike offers something different to the rider, some better at things obviously then others...you've gotta decide what best fits you and your needs, etc. For me it's the weestrom. There are always people around willing to let you test ride bikes....join enough forums and you'll be able to ride what ever it is you want before you know it. Trust me (I'm a bike testing whore).

I looked at the GS before purchasing the wee. 1st...every used gs I looked at seemed to have an issue and the issues seemed re-occurring. Even read in multiple threads on bmw forums about the issues. That in itself seemed pretty sad. That expensive of a bike, you would think BMW would fix the glitches right away. Apparently not. Also came to find that a lot of bmw owners have a lot of tech days. Personally, I'd rather ride. :var_39:
And lastly...It's the principle of it all... bmw owners are like a high school cliche' of preppy rich kids. I didn't want nor was I a part of it then and I won't be now. ;) There I said it.:rolleyes:
 

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Thanks for the reply. after posting this I spent a bit of time searching through here and other forums and find that the common opinion on the Vee is that its as near an "GOOD" all around bike as you can get. With some saying they've taken it into some fairly rough stuff. The videos helped prove this.I will be doing long distance riding as well as dirt ,gravel, etc. I think this might be the right choice. The local Stealer is going to check on a 09 as I will be trading my 05 RSTD in on this. For years I had myself convinced that an FJR was in my future, but after my accident I'm rethinking all around fun instead of A-B speed travel.

Now I just need to test drive one.Anyone in Montana near Billings be interested in letting me try one out ??:mrgreen:
 

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. . . For years I had myself convinced that an FJR was in my future, but after my accident I'm rethinking all around fun instead of A-B speed travel.

Now I just need to test drive one.Anyone in Montana near Billings be interested in letting me try one out ??:mrgreen:

I really like the FJR and VFR and, much like you, was convinced that one of the two was in my future. When I started researching bikes these stupid V-Stroms kept popping up. ;) I finally decided to look a little more closely and realized what a great bike they are. After looking at a few and sitting on a few I found a great used DL650. I haven't had it long but so far I love it.

Good luck on your search. You've found a great site with a wealth of knowledge.
 

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BadPigg,

We're all talking about the V-Strom here, which is the DL designation, available in 650cc and 1000cc variants. Twice in your first post you refered to DR1000, of which to my knowledge, there is no such thing. You also mentioned dual sports. Suzuki has a dual sport line, designated DR (not DL), that is topped by the DR650. The DRs are certainly more dirt worthy than the DLs by virtue of lighter weight, a chassis that goes under the engine, and longer travel suspension. I'm not trying to talk you out of a DL because I think they're fantastic all-round motorcycles. I just want to make sure you're not confused between the DL and the DR series because I got confused reading your post.

By the way, welcome to Stromtrooper.com.
 

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Hi Eric

We stay up in Ennis every summer and ride the dirt, and flyfish. As you no doubt know Montana has few restrictions on single track riding in the back country on Forest service and BLM lands. If I was only going to have one bike for Montana it would be something like the 530 KTM, license it and you can go anywhere. You can connect dirt roads accross mountain ranges where there arn't any roads just single track.

No way are you going to get a big DS accross a lot of that country, let alone a Wee or Vee. I have a Montana perm license on my 525, it's a license that really opens up the Big Sky Country.
 
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