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I'm going to be in the market for riding pants suitable for V-Strom travels. I've never owned pants for this type of riding so am hoping I can get some feedback from those of you who have. I've got a good jacket so don't need a suit.

Do you prefer over pants or not? Waterproof pants or liner? How about materials, denim, cordura, kevlar, etc.? What brands have folks had good luck with? Good stores/sites to purchase from? How about put on/take off? Full length leg zippers for over pants? Pockets?

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I presently have 3 pairs, an Aerostitch roadcrafter two piece, BMW Santiago, and First Gear mesh. They are all great in their own way. I wear small shorts under them or long johns when it gets cold.

Liners are annoying but if you don't ride much in the rain and it's for emergency/occasional rain, then liners are nicer because your pants will breathe better. Full zippers are great, and if they are two way then you get big vents out of the deal. The easier the pants are to put on, the more you are likely to grab them every time, and so therefore the more protective they are. Vents are critical but I think every pant has them. Pockets are kind of misleading, I never find having anything in my pockets while riding is comfortable.

Denim won't save you in a crash, Cordura and Kevlar have been standards for years, both are great, Kevlar is better in a slide I think but breathes less.

I would recommend hip, tailbone, and knee armour.
 
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Also, bring your boots to make sure the pants fit with them well, and make sure you sit on a bike when trying them on. Pants need to be longer for riding than when you are standing.
 

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Aerostich Darien or AD1......simply the best. Full length leg zippers, Gore-Tex, and can be altered or repaired by being sent back to Aerostich. They aren't so expensive, considering how many years they will last you. :wink2:
 

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Need more info.

What jacket do you have?
What type of riding do you do or intend to do?
In what kind of weather?
What's your budget?

Answering the above questions will help others provide more targeted feedback. For example, I can speak to my preferences for gear in general road riding, commuting, and short tours, across a range of weather from dry 0º to hot and humid 100ºF, sunny or raining...but not off-pavement or high, dry heat.
 

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Been riding a LONG TIME. Can honestly say that when it comes to riding gear, it's mostly true that you get what you pay for. There are cheaper options that may or may not work well, and if the gear does work well, it likely won't last for years of travel. I started with the "budget" stuff in the $75-125 per piece and it worked OK for awhile, mostly. Graduated up the price scale and it worked better, generally. Bought a used Aerostich Roadcrafter onesie and it worked very well, but I never could come to grips with the whole stripping down to whatever I was wearing underneath when I dismounted, plus it was hotter than Hades in the summer even with the vents open. I sold it for what I paid for it three years later. The last couple of years, I've ridden thousands of miles wearing some used Klim gear and it's worked in temps from mid-20s to 100*F plus, in sleet and torrential rain, without much drama or discomfort. I paid $450 for the jacket/pants combo in very good condition and I've only had to replace one snap in the last three years.

Now, I wouldn't recommend buying all new high-end gear right away unless you have unlimited funds or enjoy squandering your money. Go to the ADVR For Sale forum and hang out until you see something that will work size-wise. Doesn't have to be newish or even perfect, but live with it and ride enough miles in it to convince yourself that's the gear you want. Then, if you really need to have riding gear that only you have sweated in, sell your stuff and buy yourself shiny new clothes!

Riding in high quality, well engineered, comfortable riding gear is akin to living in your house with reliable central heat/AC--why be uncomfortable?
 

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Need more info.

What jacket do you have?
What type of riding do you do or intend to do?
In what kind of weather?
What's your budget?

Answering the above questions will help others provide more targeted feedback. For example, I can speak to my preferences for gear in general road riding, commuting, and short tours, across a range of weather from dry 0º to hot and humid 100ºF, sunny or raining...but not off-pavement or high, dry heat.
I have a Motoport Marathon jacket. (Am strongly considering their pants as well)
Road and off-road (Fire road, gravel road and mild two-track) touring as well as day rides and commuting.
All kinds of weather except freezing and snow/ice.
I have a Motoport jacket.
 

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My Airglide 3 are certainly the best $100 I've ever spent. Now that was dumb luck for price but zippers, fasteners - there is not a single flaw in them after years of hard use. Can't speak to the current version but they are cool enough in Australian heat with Motoskivvies on and with warm underlayers fine for Canada down to 5 C.

Full length Zippers, CE armor ( the knee armor I take out and wear armor attached to my knees ), double fasteners and velcro over the boots that just never quits. They wash up okay too tho I rarely bother.

I don't like pants with liners....rather have external rain gear......and yeah suspenders are your friend.
And the Airglides don't cost a fortune....I know other riders that swear by them including a couple that have been touring the world for 5+ years.
 

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Had wondered about that. Thanks.
The main reason the jacket should be able to be attached to the pants is not to keep the pants up (although that is a side benefit). It is to keep the jacket from riding up your back should you have a get off and slide down the road. If the jacket slides up, it is no longer providing protection to your lower torso. The same principle applies to the pants. ie. keeps them from sliding down. Depending on the direction of your slide, one or the other is going to try and move. If they are tied together, you are better protected. There is a reason that only one piece suits are allowed in racing.
 

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I have Aerostich Darien pants (not the AD1 version), and they work for all conditions.

For +70 degree summer use, I bought a pair of Motoport pants. Holy smokes are these things built for battle! Anyway, kevlar mesh on the front side, stretch kevlar on the back (from waistline to foot). Even with the full padding they breathe very well when riding. Stretch kevlar on the back works nicely because you move a bit easier (more pliable than the mesh), and it is easier on the bike seat upholstery. Brief warm rain isn't a big worry, but you'd need an overpant, or Motoport's liners, to stay dry in steady rain. Read more about my pants here-
September 2016 ? Gear Review ? Corazzo Jacket And Motoport Pants

Buy the best, avoid budget gear. Road rash and skin grafts are best avoided. What's your flesh worth to you?

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Bought a pair of Klim K Fifty 2 jeans with all the protection already built in. Fit is perfect and I can even wear it at work all day without discomfort or anyone looking at me funny. Would buy them again in a minute. I rode with regular jeans for 20 years without incident but did not want to bet on continuing to be so lucky.

Waterproof shoes are the most important thing, I got those years ago. BMW branded, and of course not cheap but I have had them for 8 or 9 years now and they are still completely waterproof. There is nothing worse than soaking wet feet. Gore-Tex hiking boots will work for a bit but not if you ride in the rain for hours, the water will find a way in. I use a hiking Gore-Tex jacket over leather if it really pours, and some lightweight Gore-Tex hiking over-pants which have a zipper for the bottom 12” or so, enough that I can put them on and take them off by the side of the road without needing to get out of the boots.

The nice thing about leather and jeans is that one can ride through a light rain for a bit without worries. I have friends with $1000k ADV mesh gear but if they don’t have their liners in as soon as it rains the water will run right into their boots, which does not happen with jeans over boots, within reason of course.
 

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I have Aerostich Darien pants (not the AD1 version), and they work for all conditions.

For +70 degree summer use, I bought a pair of Motoport pants. Holy smokes are these things built for battle! Anyway, kevlar mesh on the front side, stretch kevlar on the back (from waistline to foot). Even with the full padding they breathe very well when riding. Stretch kevlar on the back works nicely because you move a bit easier (more pliable than the mesh), and it is easier on the bike seat upholstery. Brief warm rain isn't a big worry, but you'd need an overpant, or Motoport's liners, to stay dry in steady rain. Read more about my pants here-
September 2016 ? Gear Review ? Corazzo Jacket And Motoport Pants

Buy the best, avoid budget gear. Road rash and skin grafts are best avoided. What's your flesh worth to you?

Steve.
The one concern I have with the stretch kevlar is how it performs in an off-road environment where it might get snagged by brush and trees, etc. Any opportunity to check them out in those conditions? I've thought about working with Motoport to put some of their cordura on the front of the shins/knees and hips and, maybe, the butt. Just in case the material is prone to snagging.

How do you like the zipper set-up? In/out easy? Do the zippers chafe at all?

For over rain gear, any recommendations?
 

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The one concern I have with the stretch kevlar is how it performs in an off-road environment where it might get snagged by brush and trees, etc. Any opportunity to check them out in those conditions? I've thought about working with Motoport to put some of their cordura on the front of the shins/knees and hips and, maybe, the butt. Just in case the material is prone to snagging.

How do you like the zipper set-up? In/out easy? Do the zippers chafe at all?

For over rain gear, any recommendations?
No, I'm not an off-road/single track rider, so no idea about riding through the brush.

And I only ride with full length jeans under my riding pants, but otherwise I have no issues with fabric or zipper causing issues with my comfort with either brand.

Motoport will listen to any ideas you might have, given the conditions you'll be using them in. Call and talk to them.

Entry and exit of the pants, it is easier for me to get in and out of the Aerostich Darien pants with zippers on the outside of the leg than the Motoport with the zipper on the inside of the leg. It is not difficult to get in and out of the Motoport, just not as easy as the 'Stich.

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One feature to look for - pants should have a velcro strap to take up extra room at the ankle or the pant leg should be cut to fit tightly over your boot. I got a cheap pair of pants that were a bit baggy down there, and I snagged the excess fabric on the foot peg a couple of times when coming to a stop. Amost tipped over. Shortly after that I got a used 'Stitch suit and never looked back.
 

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But be careful as the pants ride up a long ways when you are seated feet up on the bike. Riding pants should not snag on the footpeg.....I have caught jeans on my kickstand for an embarrassing tip over.
 

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I've got Aerostich Darien Pants and jacket....I also have a Firstgear Kathmandu jacket...I kinda like the Firstgear jacket better, but use both, neither have ever leaked..... Nothing worse than being wet when riding.. My buddy won't spend money for good gear, so he wears Frogg Toggs over his leaky cheap tourmaster or whatever stuff Lol...I've seen him pull his gloves off and pour water out of them... Wet feet suck also..good waterproof boots are a must alo....If you ride much, you will ride in the rain....
 
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