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I'm looking for a riding jacket, anybody have or tried a first gear jaunt t2 jacket? If so how are they in hot weather? Or would I be better with a mesh? Any help or comments appreciated.
 

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Don't know what your summers are like.
That being said, I have the Kilimanjaro, which is also FirstGear, and also touted as a 3-season jacket, like the Jaunt 2. No way in hell would I wear this in the summer (or for that matter, in spring or fall).
They both have good venting, and removable liners, and if you're only doing long slab rides with lots of airflow it *may* work for you in the warmer weather. Around town, IMHO, you'll broil in the warmer weather.

That being said, it's better protection than mesh (although, I've learned lots about mesh lately, and if you have the $$$ you can buy something like Air Mesh Kevlar, or Cordura 1000 - I use a mesh Cordura 500 for summer riding - price/performance trade off).

I know it's tough for some budgets, but when you have extreme temps, like where you live, you'll probably need two different temp-appropriate jackets.
 

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I purchased the Olympia Motsports Nomad jacket last year. It is well made, and excellent from a safety perspective. It has high denier cordura, and armor on the elbows, shoulders and back. I purchased this particular jacket, as it had panels on the chest arms and back that zippered open for summer riding. When open, they provide a lot of air movement. When closed, the jacket can be worn in all types of weather. The jacket also comes with a waterproof shell, and a second insulated shell. Due to all of this, I can actually say it is a four season jacket.
 

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I'm a fellow Michigander, and have a 3 season jacket (Tourmaster Transit 3 or something like that), and a Speed & strength mesh jacket - in a lightly colored grey/silvery motif to keep the sun's rays at bay (no black!). I wear my mesh jacket exclusively in the summer, and at 3 years old it's beginning to look a little tatty, but it's a bit more conservative than full-mesh jackets. My jacket has non-mesh material where you'd hit the tarmac, and mesh were the likelyhood of abrasion is minimal. You absolutely WILL want a mesh jacket for summer here in the mosquito swamplands of michigan. I've tried using my Tourmaster, with all the multitude of vents wide open, but it's still a sweatsack in the summer. The mesh jacket is absolutely incredible in the summer, and it's removable rain shell is great for those chilly AM's where you need some wind protection to stay warm.

I'd go with a two jacket solution - get a nice inexpensive touring jacket and a mesh jacket. I know it's more money, but anything less than a mesh riding jacket for the hot weather in Michigan is very uncomfortable.

If I were going to get a new meshie jacket, I'd get the Revit Airwave jacket - it's incredibly well designed, and it's light coloring keeps the solar gain at bay. The matching mesh overpants are winners too. I cannot figure out why jacket makers continue to make mesh summer jackets in black, or dark colors that absorb every last photon of solar energy!!!???!!!

 

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Jackets

Having the right gear is a big deal. After riding for many years, I have come to the realization that there is no one jacket to cover all the bases. At this point I have three jackets that I use including a leather, a 3/4 touring, and a mesh. While there is some overlap, each has advantages and limitations. Last year our tour was mostly in the south, and the mesh made the trip. The year before that it was to Canada, so the touring jacket went. On a cold morning to work, I pretty much just want my leather. Using layers allows for some more flexibility. I try to scrounge a bit and purchase on sale / moderately priced gear at the end of the season to keep the cost down. I probably have less in all three than some folks will have in one, but I'm not that fussy about style, and more into function. To each their own. :beatnik:

Best wishes and ride safe ... :thumbup:
Dave
 

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I'm happy with Olympia Airglide pants and jacket (mesh) for all the riding I do. Covers cold, hot, wet, etc for me in the desert. Been a long time since I've encountered any serious rain though and when it gets below 50 F I'm probably not riding.
 

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Can't help you with that particular jacket.

Since we are talking about hot weather riding, I would recommend something like the veskimo vest. You can wear any jacket you want and remain comfortable year-round. It's a little pricey but there's nothing comparable when you're stuck in traffic in 90+ degree heat.

I commuted in Chicago all last summer with my veskimo/aerostich combo even during the heatwaves we had. It was really brutal with days where the heat index was 100+ but in my suit I was nice and cool.
 

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I just bought the jaunt T2 but don't have enough miles on it to make an accurate report. I love the way it fits (I'm long in the torso) so a large-tall fits me well. I'm hoping to get some miles on this week for a better report.


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I have a Firstgear Jaunt T2.......it's my favorite jacket, I sold my Aerostich Darien and kept it...

That being said, like everyone else, I think you need 2 jackets, I have a air jacket for anything above 75, or so, I use it with a liner some also....
 

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I'm a fellow Michigander, and have a 3 season jacket (Tourmaster Transit 3 or something like that), and a Speed & strength mesh jacket - in a lightly colored grey/silvery motif to keep the sun's rays at bay (no black!). I wear my mesh jacket exclusively in the summer, and at 3 years old it's beginning to look a little tatty, but it's a bit more conservative than full-mesh jackets. My jacket has non-mesh material where you'd hit the tarmac, and mesh were the likelyhood of abrasion is minimal. You absolutely WILL want a mesh jacket for summer here in the mosquito swamplands of michigan. I've tried using my Tourmaster, with all the multitude of vents wide open, but it's still a sweatsack in the summer. The mesh jacket is absolutely incredible in the summer, and it's removable rain shell is great for those chilly AM's where you need some wind protection to stay warm.

I'd go with a two jacket solution - get a nice inexpensive touring jacket and a mesh jacket. I know it's more money, but anything less than a mesh riding jacket for the hot weather in Michigan is very uncomfortable.
Michigander here as well, and I agree wholeheartedly. I have a Firstgear Kilimanjaro for Spring, Fall and Winter and go with a Speed and Strength mesh jacket in the height of summer.
 

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I purchased the Olympia Motsports Nomad jacket last year. It is well made, and excellent from a safety perspective. It has high denier cordura, and armor on the elbows, shoulders and back. I purchased this particular jacket, as it had panels on the chest arms and back that zippered open for summer riding. When open, they provide a lot of air movement. When closed, the jacket can be worn in all types of weather. The jacket also comes with a waterproof shell, and a second insulated shell. Due to all of this, I can actually say it is a four season jacket.
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I have also substituted a Gerbings electric jacket liner for the thermal liner for the extreme cold. Olympia brand also sizes their jackets better for the portly or rotund. Add one size above your normal size for a jacket.
 

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I have also substituted a Gerbings electric jacket liner for the thermal liner for the extreme cold. Olympia brand also sizes their jackets better for the portly or rotund. Add one size above your normal size for a jacket.
Are you calling me fat? :biggrinjester:

I have found their sizing right on for me, I wear a Large. Six foot tall, about 195 pounds, 43 in a suit, 34 waist and 32 inch inseam for my jeans, and yes the waist is a little tight. :mrgreen:

I have had the Olympia X-Moto jacket and pants for a few years. They have worked well in cool to cold weather and marginally in the warm but tolerable. I usually have the pockets full so haven't been able to take full advantage of the large venting panels. Really like the combo and the Olympia quality and fit.

So I recently picked up the Olympia Dakar jacket and pants for warm to hot weather riding. No experience yet other than trying on, but will give them a work out on the ride to and from the 2014 Eastern Gathering.
 

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although, I've learned lots about mesh lately
Would you mind elaborating on your latest findings on mesh? I'm considering a mesh jacket and am concerned now about its protection after reading your post. The kevlar and cordura jackets are out of my budget. Thanks...

-joe
 

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I have the first gen Kathmandu jacket. Incredible value. One thing I'll mention is that Firstgear sizing is ridiculous. I'm 6', 180 with a 44" chest and 32" waist. In Firstgear, I wear a medium. My friend is 6'2" and 230lbs. His Kilimanjaro is a Large.

If ordering through an online retailer, make sure they have a good exchange policy and order one size smaller than you normally would.

While my Kathmandu is a great 3 Season jacket, I wear a Held mesh jacket in July/August. Vents in 3/4 season jackets don't work as well on fully faired bikes as they do naked bikes. That's why the Kili jacket has vents higher up...it's meant to be used on a bike with a windshield while my Kat has them on the chest.

It's a matter of personal preference but I much prefer the bonded membrane jackets to the ones with multiple liners. In my experience, toting around multiple liners when riding in varied weather is a pain in the ass. I also don't like how the non-bonded shells get soaked in a shower. The main drawback to any Gore-Tex/Hypertex membrane is that performance deteriorates over time. Hand washing with Nikwax helps...but the liners are really toast after 3-5 years IMHO.
 

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I have the Tourmaster Senora air mesh 3/4 jacket. With both liners out it's a decent summer jacket. When it's really hot I unzip it about six inches for even more air flow. I wear it year round by adding or removing the liners. When it's really cold I wear my Gerbing heated liner under it.
 

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Don't know about the Jaunt T2, but I recently got a Kilimanjaro and took it on a trip to Asheville, NC this week, where we ran the gamut of weather in just a few days. Never got below 40, nor above 80, but I was comfortable in everything in between. Rained all day on us going up, and the jacket seemed water proof, although I eventually put on a Frog Toggs hi-viz jacket for added warmth (just had a t-shirt on, no liner, and it had dropped below 60 degrees while we were on the interstate). In the direct sun, low to mid 70's, it felt warm, but I never really started to sweat. I think it would be useable up to about 85, so long as you weren't in stop and go traffic all day. It does vent well with the shoulder vents. Open the shoulder, pit, and back vents, maybe lower the zipper a bit in the front, and you get lots of air, which cools quickly if you have on a shirt that wicks.
 

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Would you mind elaborating on your latest findings on mesh? I'm considering a mesh jacket and am concerned now about its protection after reading your post. The kevlar and cordura jackets are out of my budget. Thanks...

-joe
The Kevlar and 1000D Cordura are somewhat out of *my* budget as well (at least I'm not prepared to pay upwards of $1,000 for a jacket). So, you have to do price/performance T-charts.

I posted this in some thread here recently (It's not me... just a high-information vid I thought worthwhile watching):
My motorcycle gear and injuries after the crash - YouTube

It was somewhat sobering about the protection of mesh. The particular jacket in that video is almost *all* mesh, with little solid weave Cordura elsewhere. And, it melted like butter on a hot sidewalk, as you can see in the vid.
So, my feeling is, you can still buy a quality mesh jacket, with Cordura (500D won't break the bank, and is still tough), in all the high-probability impact points. I own a Tourmaster Flex3, as well as Joe Rocket Phoenix 5.0 for warm/hot weather riding. Both high mesh. Both are great, and flow air like crazy. However, I recently bought an Olympia Switchback, because of the greater Cordura coverage (all the way down the outer arm and shoulders, down the back over the spine shield, and a few other select places), the hi-viz (without making a neon sign out of you), and the tighter mesh weave than the other two. And, it *still* flows air fabulously.
So... perhaps I'm just getting more cautious with age. But, no reason you can't be better protected, comfortable, and not break the bank...

My $.02...
 

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Thanks guys for all the info and insight...lot more choices out there today than there was back in the late '70s..just getting back in to riding..love my new strom:hurray: Thanks again DKB
 

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mesh is a great invention

I have a Pilot Motosport Direct Air jacket. Based on the quality of the Air jacket, their Trans Urban jacket will be my next 3 season jacket. Webbikeworld did a review of that jacket. The review was very good. It is well made, good protection in the right areas, and has tight thick mesh. For a mesh jacket it should offer good protection. Remember it is mesh, not leather nor heavy cordura, but is well made and flows a lot of air. Great for over 75 degrees.

Mesh is worth thre tradeoff for me, to be comfortable in the heat.
 

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I rode today for about an hour. 56 degrees outside and quite windy. I had the liner in the jacket and was wearing a t-shirt. I had the chest vents open and was quite comfortable. Weather is supposed to be nice this week and be 80 degrees on Thursday. I'll ride and report on the Jaunts performance after that ride.


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