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I just bought a new 2013 v strom 650 abs. Had the dealer lower it for me. After I got home I looked up the company that made the links I have ,it is called psr-usa.com. When I looked up the links I have it says it is for 04-12 model. the link has 3 holes #1 is stock #2 is 2 inches, and #3 is 4inches. Mine is set on # 2 hole ie down 2 inches. I have been lurking for a period and I think I saw that the max to lower the rear was 1and a eighth inch. Am I in trouble? I rode the bike home from the dealer which was 110 miles. It for sure needs the kick stand shortened or replaced with a adjustable one which I have ordered from Soupys. Also have installed the frame sliders from SVperformance. The front was not lowered although I wanted them to lower it three quarters on an inch. they told me they could only go about one eighth and it wouldn't help? To top it all off the charged me $260 which I thought was sky high. But I could not ride it home with lowering to fit my 29 inch inseam.
Sorry for the long post and help would be great!
 

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Yes, that was sky high and too much lowering.

We have 7075-T6 links in a wide range of lengths for $38 and some on clearance starting at $30. Gen 1 and 2 DL650 and Gen 1 DL1000 - AdventureTech, LLC.

Two people can easily install them in 10 minutes with no special skills. http://www.adventuretech.biz/dl650-and-gen-1-dl1000-raisinglowering-link-instructions.html

The max safe amount to lower is 1.125". After that you risk damaging the inner fender/body work and having a tire rubbing against the body work isn't safe.

Seriously, I would tell them to take them off and get my money back. Take them to small claims court if you need to.
 

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I can assure you that Rick knows what he is talking about. He gave good advice.
 

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Yea, they ripped you a new one. Next time, consualt this forum. Truck loads of good information. Hopefully they will remove them and refund the money spent in parts, but probably not labor. Good luck!
 

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Too Low!

When I bought my bike I had the dealer lower it. They lowered it too much (I hadn't read this forum yet) and I immediately noticed that dreadful tire on plastic sound within 30 miles when I hit a few mild bumps.

Caused me to immediately lose faith in service at dealerships. Anyway, as the several folks above said, 1 1/8" is the limit I've seen over and over on this forum. Good luck.

Other options for lowering are OEM low seat, trimming the rubber tabs under the stock seat, and some Chippewa Logger Boots (I am short and did Kouba links, low seat, and Chippewa Boots). I didn't really need the latter.
 

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I am 5'8" tall wit a 28" inseam.

I can get one foot solidly down and most of my other foot is flat when I stop.

I've not lowered my bike.

But I understand the lack of confidence feeling not having solid footing gives.


My first suggestion. Spend some time and money learning to ride a bike slow, get comfortable with moving the bike around both on and off the bike.

Then go for boots with a thick sole. My shoe guy has added as much as a half an inch to boot soles.

Then use a thinner seat.

If done right, many people don't even need to adjust their suspension yet have gained nearly an inch of stand over wit just a slight decrease in seat comfort.
 

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I have two sets of Kouba lowering links (3/4" & 1-1/8") which I have used on various V-Stroms over the years due to having a short inseam. I found the 1-1/8" links to be too low and cause me to occasionally scrape the centerstand when hitting the low side of a bump or riding too aggressively. I had also lowered the forks 1" to maintain the frame geometry.

I currently have the 3/4" lowering links on my 2012 DL650 Adventure and it's perfect unless I have my side cases on and fully loaded. I have the rear preload cranked up to the max. I also dropped my front forks 3/4" to match the rear and not mess up the frame geometry. This combination works out pretty well.
 

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no worries - get good boots

My inseam is only 29" although I'm about 5'10" and I make out fine on my Vee. Ya, a bit of a struggle to get aboard. When it's fully loaded and I've a load of gear in a bag strapped on passenger seat I can't swing my leg over. ha ha So what if I have climb up while it's on the side stand. It gives my longer legged friends something to laugh about.
I ride a lot loaded and 2-up and most important to me is having security that when I put my toe down that it won't slip.
After I wore down the soles on my Sidi On-Road boots I had the arch filled in and the sole replaced with the best Vibram flat sole. Cost $75 and now way better than new !

 

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I am 5'8" tall wit a 28" inseam.

I can get one foot solidly down and most of my other foot is flat when I stop.

I've not lowered my bike.

But I understand the lack of confidence feeling not having solid footing gives.


My first suggestion. Spend some time and money learning to ride a bike slow, get comfortable with moving the bike around both on and off the bike.

Then go for boots with a thick sole. My shoe guy has added as much as a half an inch to boot soles.

Then use a thinner seat.

If done right, many people don't even need to adjust their suspension yet have gained nearly an inch of stand over wit just a slight decrease in seat comfort.
How do you do that, Mr. Fantastic? I have a 29" inseam, my bike's lowered w/ links 3/4" (front down 19mm), and I still can't get one foot solid down, and the other mostly down (although, I'm very comfortable with what I *can* get down, and in 12k miles on the Strom, never dropped it).

To the OP... take Rick's advice, and grab some of his 3/4" links. Go *back* to your dealer and let them know they don't know sh*t about your bike, and they put you in jeopardy, letting you ride off lowered like a see-saw... hand 'em the proper links, and tell 'em to do it right this time...

And, btw, the Soupy's kickstand is a good investment... make sure you get it with the large foot option.
 

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narrow seat

I forgot to mention that I have a Sargent seat.
The front part of the seat seems narrower than stock so I can sqooch forward a bit closer to the tank and reach the ground easier.
 

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I'm 5'-8", approx. 29"-30" inseam, and I tippy-toe with two feet, but it's not hard at all to shift a tiny bit to get one foot flat down. The only thing I need to be careful of is watching out for sideways-sloping pavement, and to put the uphill foot down first, or at least be prepared for a longer reach on the downhill side.
 

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final thoughts on lowering

Well today I took the 2013 V strom to the local dealer. He agreed the 2 inch lower in the back was no problem and lowered the front 1 inch. I think the confusion on how much to lower is caused by the fact the 04 to 11 suspension is much softer than the 2012 to 2015. I had to add a adjustable kickstand to make the bike stand up correctly. The tech test road it and I have now rode it some and the handling seems just fine. The down side I have found out on prior bikes I have owned is that if you have a center stand it can be difficult to get the bike up on it due to the lower angle. And if you venture off road you have reduced clearance.
 

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As Marco from Tropojë says... gooood luck...
 

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Well today I took the 2013 V strom to the local dealer. He agreed the 2 inch lower in the back was no problem and lowered the front 1 inch. I think the confusion on how much to lower is caused by the fact the 04 to 11 suspension is much softer than the 2012 to 2015. I had to add a adjustable kickstand to make the bike stand up correctly. The tech test road it and I have now rode it some and the handling seems just fine. The down side I have found out on prior bikes I have owned is that if you have a center stand it can be difficult to get the bike up on it due to the lower angle. And if you venture off road you have reduced clearance.
Best of luck with that, especially taking the advice of a dealer over more knowledgeable folks on this forum, none of us here know much about these bikes at all. ;)
 

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mmmmmmmm Just thinking out loud here.
-The dealer installed the incorrect link.
-They lowered it more than the 1 1/8 max recommended by other link suppliers.
-They failed to lower the front at all.
-Charged you over an hours labor on the job.
When possible problems were pointed out he/she did not want to eat the parts and labor cost.
The 12+ springs may be stiffer but IIRC the link changes that to a softer spring rate. Add a passanger and a bit of luggage and you may have a problem.
I am a newbie here. I would trust the advise on the forum, freely given, before advise from a dealer, with a monetary interest.
ok, back to work, sawdust calls.
 

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A different dealer lowered the front and said they had lowered a large number of v-stroms and had never had a problem with those levels. The dealer who lowered the rear had two techs(good sized) sit on the bike and jump up and down and could not get the tire to contact the rear fender. They did not lower the rear at that time as I did not have the adjustable kickstand installed. (bought from Soupys). Having had three other bikes lowered, a Yamaha FZ1, Suzuki Bandit, and Kawasaki 1000 I am confident with this level.
 

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Glad you are comfortable with the lowering, the rest of us are obviously not. Keep us updated on how you get along, but you may wanna crank up that rear pre-load if you have not yet. You do live in Florida where the roads are flat and boring, so you may just get along just fine. :biggrinjester:
 

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I forgot to mention I don't ride with a passenger or go off road. If the rider were to be really large and have more weight than the bike is rated for they could have a different experience. But this works for me and lets me get both feet down.
 

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He is in Florida, probably will be just fine with such a low rider.

With that said, its not smart ignoring the advice here, especially since you asked for it in the first place. Sounds like your putting yourself in danger, so yes please avoid speed bumps and no passengers. :)

You really need to learn that you don't need to flat foot a bike, practice on a light DS first. Build those skills.
 
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