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This is the first pair of true dual sport tires I have had on the bike. I had OEM Trailwings before and I thought they were not too bad on gravel, but, The K60 is waaaaayyyy better. Straight line they move a bit but not as squirmy as the TW's . Turns are where they shine. I was able to steer with the rear + gas with much more confidence. I kept thinking, "your going to look smart if you dump it first time out on the new tires, but they just keep asking for more. With the TW's, if you get too hard on the gas the tire breaks free and gets more free. With the K60's you can break it loose and then it hooks up again. Sorry, I know lots of you guys have these tires already, and your like, duh, but for anyone who has been sitting on the fence,
did I mention they have a 1/2" lug depth on the rears!!! :thumbup:
 

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sakebato; I will try to post back about every 1-2000km. depending on how they wear. More wear = more posts. At present I run about 50km. at 100km/hr., to the area I am exploring. It is all gravel and I go in there for photography, fishing, exploration and last but not least, the ride. I do about 50km. on the gravel, at speeds up to 80km./hr. but averaging 50-60. I do a small amount of off road double and single track on sandy rocky areas, but not enough to affect the wear.
 

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sakebato; I will try to post back about every 1-2000km. depending on how they wear. More wear = more posts. At present I run about 50km. at 100km/hr., to the area I am exploring. It is all gravel and I go in there for photography, fishing, exploration and last but not least, the ride. I do about 50km. on the gravel, at speeds up to 80km./hr. but averaging 50-60. I do a small amount of off road double and single track on sandy rocky areas, but not enough to affect the wear.
Cool, thanks man. Looking for a good 50/50 tire for next year
 

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I just picked up a set of the k60 scouts. they have a nice stripe down the middle of the rear tire for highway use and such. Some have complained that this is a bad thing but hey its not a dirt bike tire. Now my understanding was that these where a 40-35% offload not a 50% offroad tire.

Picked them up for the TLH trip starting next friday. They wil be on the bike tomorrow so am looking forward to some fun.

but I do have one thought, what pressure on the TLH should I run these at.
 

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I just picked up a set of the k60 scouts. they have a nice stripe down the middle of the rear tire for highway use and such. Some have complained that this is a bad thing but hey its not a dirt bike tire. Now my understanding was that these where a 40-35% offload not a 50% offroad tire.

Picked them up for the TLH trip starting next friday. They wil be on the bike tomorrow so am looking forward to some fun.

but I do have one thought, what pressure on the TLH should I run these at.
I would run the recommended 36/41. The tire is so into gravel, that I would only deflate them for very deep loose gravel.
I was out today and found a possible difference between TW's & K60's. My old TW's never budged on tar snakes, the K60's do. These were severe snakes though, that had not been completely filled level (or filled at all) to the roadway surface. I will have to go out on some of the usual roads I travel to be sure.
One last caution, scrub them in before they scrub you in:jawdrop: (about 100km easy does it):thumbup:

Best of luck on the TLH, RR if you can at some point. (Take plenty fly dope whiteman)
 

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these are the most aggressive tire I have ever had. first time out today on them only a run to work to make sure tires don't fall off :yesnod: 2 notes, front wheel low speeds is buzzy, no surprise there. the second and surprising thing is the front steering when moving bike around in garage or at low speeds is that steering is loose. My tourances the grip of tire on ground was decent ie it took more effort to move the front wheel then these do. No idea if this is normal or not but took me a little by surprise. When backing out of garage went to change direction and put in my normal steering effort and wack bounced the bars odd the steering stop :headbang:
 

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Just did about 6k on a set. My first dirt-oriented tire (previous was Anakee 2).

Holy crap, they squirm a LOT on pavement irregularities, metal bridges, tar snakes, everything. I found them downright scary on wet pavement, but it might be my inexperience. Hit a painted stretch even when you don't think you're steering, and you get a wiggle. It wasn't confidence inspiring, though for all i know it might just be a wiggle and not an indication of greater slip.

On dirt and gravel I was able to accelerate damn hard, but I don't have the dirt experience to corner hard on the loose stuff. I'm too afraid of the slip to really give it much stick, so I didn't really go any faster on loose stuff than my buddy on street tires. But it was definitely more confidence inspiring knowing I'd be able to STOP right now if I wanted to.

Yeah, they howl like hell on pavement. Earplugs are a necessity.

No real comment on tire pressures except the max listed is 36psi. I was running 36f 38r until I lowered to 35f 36r. It felt squirmy still at a lower pressure, but a different kind of squirm. I wonder if a lower pressure would result in more stable handling because you aren't jumping from treadblock to treadblock, you have more rubber on the road.

Also the 130 size rear has no center stripe (the 140 was recommended for my bike, which DOES have the stripe). The 130 with no stripe wore out about twice as fast as my 140 did. So go 140 or higher.
 

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K60 150

I also just (tonight) put a set on my Vee for the Trans-Labrador Hwy trip, leaving July 22nd. I've been looking forward to the trip for months. I was going to run TKC's but the folks at A Vicious Cycle pointed out you get the center strip and the sides have about the same ratio of block to groove.

The 130 has no centre strip, the 140 seems to be half filled in, and the 150 series has a solid strip (roughly 2cm wide).

Who knows we may run into each other on road. Have a great trip, look forward to comparing notes.

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I also just (tonight) put a set on my Vee for the Trans-Labrador Hwy trip, leaving July 22nd. I've been looking forward to the trip for months. I was going to run TKC's but the folks at A Vicious Cycle pointed out you get the center strip and the sides have about the same ratio of block to groove.

The 130 has no centre strip, the 140 seems to be half filled in, and the 150 series has a solid strip (roughly 2cm wide).

Who knows we may run into each other on road. Have a great trip, look forward to comparing notes.

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Looks like I am 1 week ahead of you, I finish highway on the 22nd if things go as planed. I have 5 days to do the highway which should be easy enough.
 

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Just did about 6k on a set. My first dirt-oriented tire (previous was Anakee 2).

Holy crap, they squirm a LOT on pavement irregularities, metal bridges, tar snakes, everything. I found them downright scary on wet pavement, but it might be my inexperience. Hit a painted stretch even when you don't think you're steering, and you get a wiggle. It wasn't confidence inspiring, though for all i know it might just be a wiggle and not an indication of greater slip.

On dirt and gravel I was able to accelerate damn hard, but I don't have the dirt experience to corner hard on the loose stuff. I'm too afraid of the slip to really give it much stick, so I didn't really go any faster on loose stuff than my buddy on street tires. But it was definitely more confidence inspiring knowing I'd be able to STOP right now if I wanted to.

Yeah, they howl like hell on pavement. Earplugs are a necessity.

No real comment on tire pressures except the max listed is 36psi. I was running 36f 38r until I lowered to 35f 36r. It felt squirmy still at a lower pressure, but a different kind of squirm. I wonder if a lower pressure would result in more stable handling because you aren't jumping from treadblock to treadblock, you have more rubber on the road.

Also the 130 size rear has no center stripe (the 140 was recommended for my bike, which DOES have the stripe). The 130 with no stripe wore out about twice as fast as my 140 did. So go 140 or higher.
I thought the 150 was standard rear? I'm assuming you put them on a 2007 Wee.:confused:
 

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Thanks for the post. Please follow up with tread life report.
All I can say is WANT!
I have about 1500km on them now and as near as can be measured I have lost just less than a 1/16". That included a 250km run down the slab with two Harley friends:headbang: So leaving a 1/16" on the tires when I consider them finished, and starting with 8/16", I would have 7X1500km= 10,500km. I can live with that. I have lowered my pressures to 34f 34r, to check that out. I don't get much of a howl from mine, but my helmet is quiet and my ears are old.
 

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I thought the 150 was standard rear? I'm assuming you put them on a 2007 Wee.:confused:
Yup. Dan at adventure cycleworks in fairbanks recommended going from 150 to 140 on the Wee, and from 140 to 130 on the F650GS. Turned out to be a mistake on the BMW, because the 130's lack of a center block meant it wore REALLY fast. Buddy replaced them at 4k while mine still have plenty of life at 6k.
 

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Yup. Dan at adventure cycleworks in fairbanks recommended going from 150 to 140 on the Wee, and from 140 to 130 on the F650GS. Turned out to be a mistake on the BMW, because the 130's lack of a center block meant it wore REALLY fast. Buddy replaced them at 4k while mine still have plenty of life at 6k.

I'm hoping to get 10k:yesnod:
 

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Trans Labrador done and over with. Pressure run on there was 30psi rear tire and 26 on the front. I don't have a measurement but I did 7500km on the tires, most on ash-fault. The rear is showing more ware then I was hoping for, but still on its way to giving me over 10,000km. I would say just over 1/2 the tread on rear is gone. But note bike was heavily loaded up of curse.

As for grip the rear even in hard pack covered in a inch of sand and then toped with gravel (scray crap which gave me 2 tank slappers I managed to power out of) it bit in and moved me. Just give the bike gas and it moved, the rear even with the center core people complain about on adv, the tire just bit in and moved my beast.

the front was a great tire as well but if I did that run again I would like a little more aggressive on the front like a tkc80. but in the end I would say the tires are great so far.
 

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Picked up a staple or something in the OEM after 6100 miles and Ride On and a plug wouldn't hold. It was down in the groove of the tread. Ordered the K60 since I plan on a Utah trip this coming summer and wanted to try it out. Guess I should have gone with a more 90/10 tire, but figured I would give a 50/50 a try. Ordered the K60 for the rear from BikeBandit and will see what to mount on the front. Tire came in the day after I left for Africa, so I will get it mounted when I get back.

Look forward to trying it. Should have read the posts here about the shimmy and noise first I guess, because my riding is more 80/20 than 50/50 highway/dirt but everything I read about the tire says that you can expect 10k or so....heck that is all I EVER get out of a rear (better than usual actually) so I will see how it works. Also wanted to try it because I would love to go back to the canyonlands in Utah and try the Moki Dugway and maybe Shafer Trail if I can this summer.

Maybe should have gone with a K76 or something since I am more on slab than dirt. So after some miles, what do you folks think about the K60 on superslab and stuff.

I liked a lot of the reviews on the K60 and ordered it after watching the tire comparison video on Revzilla. So, what are the long mileage riders thinking about the K60 now? Thanks for the review so far.......:thumbup:
 

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500 miles so far

I installed K60s front and rear after nearly 11,000 miles on the original tires. My first impression is that the Heidenaus were much squirmier on the pavement but I got used to them after a few hundred miles. (Dry pavement, above freezing temps).

I tested them a bit (25psi front/rear) in off road conditions (steep hills, grass, dirt) and am pretty impressed. Even with the center strip on the rear (150 width), they powered up a pretty long and steep grassy hill, spinning but still providing traction.

I got them for a planned trip to Big Bend National Park in TX this summer, will see how they perform there.
 
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