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new 2011 dl650 owner with a couple of questions

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Hi all,

I made a switch to a dl650 after my Yamaha FZ1 was totaled by a guy opening a door as I was passing by and knocking me over... Figured I'll do some more chill riding and go for some nice and easy off-pavement roads. So now I'm a new proud owner of a 2011 dl650:
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I was wondering if you could help me with couple of initial questions:

It's got an aftermarket seat that seems more roomy than the stock and perhaps for someone with longer legs, arms, and bigger butt, it would be perfect, but I am 5'7 and slim, so I find myself sliding back during acceleration and then having to scoot back forward closer to the gas tank.
Should I try to find a stock one or are there other aftermarket ones that would prevent me from sliding back while also not increasing the height (since I'm already on my tip toes when stopping)?
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Givi windshield is pretty rattly. I can see that one bolt doesn't have anything on it, and I could put a nut there, but I see that all other bolts have some sort of rubber-like things that don't even look like nuts, so I wonder if a regular nut could crack it. Maybe I could find some rubber shim to put under it.
What's the best way to fix it?
Also, there are 2 sets of t-tracks, one controlled by knobs I could turn with my hands, and other just have loose nuts and bolts there. If I tighten those I'll lose the ability to adjust the windshield by hand. Is there supposed to be a second set of knobs? Easy enough to put them there, just wondering whether I'm missing something about why it's like this in the first place.
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Came with no tools and no manual, is the stock tool kit easy to find? I see some on ebay, but not sure if they're complete.
Or are there other common ones you'd recommend that I buy?

The skid plate doesn't go up as high as ones I see online, it covers the oil filter but not that little radiator right above it. Is that something anyone would concern themselves with?
By the way, back where I grew up, people used to just hang a piece of rubber off the back of the fender preventing any extra rocks or dirt flying onto the frame. Granted, it's not a particularly aesthetically pleasing solution, but it worked and you don't have to give up extra clearance with the skid plate. I don't imagine skid plate actually protects from impact if you scrape the ground, does it?

Thаnk you in advance.


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Or are there other common ones you'd recommend that I buy?
Screwdriver and hex key missing. and a little expensive - I saw a complete set on ebay for 30 bucks.
I got the bike with a complete set, and I have enough for maintenance and minor work.
The adjustable windshield bracket isn't OEM, it's made by Madstad. It only supposed to have two knobs, one on each side. The lower bolt should be loose enough so it will slide up and down. You may be able to get the rubber grommet from Madstad or Suzuki if you can't come up with your own solution.

You can purchase a Fender Extenda which attaches to the back of the front fender for more protection.

BTW - Nice bike, I always liked those white bikes.
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As said, that's a Madstad windshield bracket...great accessory. The seat looks very nice. If it were me, I'd reach out to Sargent or take it to a local upholstery shop and explain your issue. They may be able to add a bolster at the rear of the seat and change how it fits you. Suzuki made a regular and tall seat for Gen-1 bikes, and they also made a gel seat.
The skid plate on your bike is definitely slanted to road use. Still effective at keeping crap from hitting the oil filter and exhaust pipe. There are lowering dogbones for that vintage. You give up a little ground clearance, but makes the bike fit much better for longer-waisted or shorter-legged riders.
Lastly, nice looking bike, bonus with the Givi Monokey racks and the aftermarket exhaust!
I replaced my Suzuki supplied tools with "adult tools" that I picked up from pawn shops, flea markets etc. etc. Probably cost me $30-$40 in total. I've got them stored in two bags that I picked up from a local hardware store and these bags tuck into the storage area under the seat.

Having said that, my original kit is available if you're interested. It is a 2020 model so I'm not sure if the tool kit is the same as the one required for your model year. Tableware Material property Kitchen utensil Cutlery Font
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You have a Sargent seat, worth some money and most prefer it's comfort vs stock. I am sure someone here on the forum will trade you or look on Facebook Marketplace for a stock seat. I found the stock seat very uncomfortable after anything over an hour but I am 6'2". Welcome to the forum and enjoy getting to know your new bike. Mine has been an absolute peach over the last 4k miles since June.
That Sargent seat is a great upgrade. I'm 5'5" and not slim; it works really good especially for long rides. You could probably find a cheap stock seat to try, but I would suggest giving the Sargent a good trial.

Madstad can probably help with what you are missing. I had one, but not as big a fan as most folks.

Great bikes.
Welcome to the forum, bitter.

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That Sargent seat is a great seat. I have a Suzuki gel seat on my 07 Wee and the stock seat. Wish I had the Sargent.
For what it's worth, I have a stock seat, am fairly light, and don't find it uncomfortable at all. I come from bicycling and compared to those saddles, it's a sofa. I've never had any discomfort even after 8-9 hours of riding. I can slide back and forth a bit, though. I can't compare it to anything else height wise, but I imagine it's similar.
Thank you all for the info, it's so nice that there is such a responsive community for these bikes.

So the windshield actually says Givi on it, but from the comments I understand that it's just the glass part, and the mounting bracket is from Madstad, correct?

According to this article:

stock seat is actually 1/2" shorter than Sargent. I don't want to lower the bike itself, but 1/2" might actually make a difference. It's manageable as is, but challenging to back into a parking spot against even a slightest incline, I have to get off the bike and roll it into place.
I'll give sargent a try for now, but perhaps an upholstery place could shave it off a little eventually. I could also try some of those net-looking cushions than might prevent me from sliding.

Also, it appears to have powercommander module to go with that exhaust. It's got some ports on it, one of which looks like micro-USB.
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I'm curious whether it's easy to plug in and see what settings it has there? Looks like they got software downloadable from their website, albeit only for windows.

Of course, I expected it to be not remotely as zippy as my late fz1, but still I felt a little surprised that it reminded me more of my first bike Suzuki gs500. So I'm wondering what the tuning is. I still need to ride it a couple of hundred miles to see the gas mileage.
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Correct, you have a Givi windshield (plastic) and a Madstad windshield bracket.

A few folks have lowered the stock seat by modifying the rubber bumpers that rest on the frame, by cutting them in half.
I wouldn't modify the Sargent, if you don't like the mods and it's not reversible, it greatly kills it's value. Unless you love the comfort of the Sargent, you may want to pick up a stock seat to modify ($60-$75), and sell the Sargent ($200-$300).
The stock may just may need to have the foam cut down and most likely recovered, you may have a local upholsterer that can help with both. Seat comfort is very personal unfortunately, one place where peoples opinions are fairly useless.

If the bike is running well, I wouldn't screw around with the Dynojet.
Your bike looks to be nicely farkled out. Crash bars, bash plate, Madstad bracket, Sargent Seat, Aftermarket Exhaust + Power Commander, Touring Windscreen, Givi rear and side mounts. There is a chance some suspension work was done too, if so, the previous owners did you a lot of favors. Well done on the purchase! If it's missing windshield mounting screws, I find it is best to use the proper replacements instead of making your own. They will only be a few bucks. New windshields are $80-$150 depending on which direction you go.

Your bike should have some pep and should feel stronger than your old gs500 (45 vs 65 hp and much more torque). It won't hold a candle to your liter bike. I have two 1st Gen 650's in my garage and they pull pretty hard up to about 85, then slowly work their way up to a true 100-105. Realize that the speedometer is off about 8% on these, unless a PO corrected it. GPS (phone) speedometer is your friend.
The aftermarket exhaust and the power commander would be the first place I look at for performance issues, that and finding another DL650 to compare it too.
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The rubber inserts for mounting the shield are called well nuts. They are readily available at hardware stores & on the internet. The ones on your bike look to have been over tightened & also possibly not seated fully on some. I believe the thread size is 5mm ..the rubber length & outer diameter (hole size) are variable so check those dimensions before buying. The shield should also have some plastic collars on the mounting screws to protect it.

That Sargent seat could have a piece of foam attached temporarily to the vertical banana shaped riders rear section to move you forward justa bit...(mabe 1-1.5" thick). Use some duct tape to attach it temporarily. Some well placed velcro sewn onto the seat cover wouldnt be very noticeable & hold the pad permanantly. Cover the foam with similar material.

& the skid plate.....that looks like a seldom seen Hepco Becker brand. Should be good quality...justa bit pricey when new.

My 011 Oui of the 1st gen Stroms Ive owned...kinda still miss it.
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What part of the country are you located in op?
What part of the country are you located in op?
I'm in San Francisco Bay Area
Welcome , bike looks great some small adjustments, repairs and you will be there. Drove through that area once great riding around there.
Did you look at the underside of your Sargent seat for the tool pouch? The seat has a nice little nest in the middle with a elastic strap to hold the pouch in place.

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