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So my Shinko rear tire is coming apart so I need to replace it. I want to go with the Road pilot 3 trail from Michelin so I can hopefully get better total mileage. The shinko died early because it's splitting apart but it really was only good for another 1k max which would end up being about 6500 miles or so total. My old Michelin pilot 2 on my last bike did about 15k mikes. My question is the front shinko 705 is like new. Is it ok to leave this & just run the michelin on the back? Or is there a good reason not to do this? I do mostly pavement and my extent of off road is really just dirt roads. My main reason for going with the road pilot 3 trail over the 705 trailmaster shinko.

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Never ever run with mis-matched tyres on a motorcycle. two wheels are unstable at the best of times, the tread pattern make a huge difference to the feel of the bike and the characteristics change, even the same make but different model of tyre also affect the ridability. The bike will feel 'slippery' and the front wheel will not be in sync with the rear, I can't make it clearer, but if you ride with different tread you will know what I mean. I quess if you only ride on dirt then may not make that much difference, but on tarmac it's a definate no no.
When I buy new tyres I tend to buy two rears and one front, only because I know that the rears will wear out so much quicker and more than likely I may not be able to replace with a matching rear later.
 

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Make sure the bead is not seated at pressures above 60 maybe 70 the most I have the opinion that high pressure hurts the tire and causes the beginning of separation
 

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Why not just buy another rear Shinko 705? I have found the front tires to wear a long time, cupping was the end of all of mine rather than tread depth. If you have been satisfied with the 705 ( aside from delamination ) I would simply put on another rear and when it is done switch out both front and rear to whatever tires I wanted at the time. The Shinko has a bad rep for the delamination, none of mine ever did that. But I inspect my tires regularly and I am sure I would catch it before it was a hazard. The Shinko is a really good all around tire if you do ANY off pavement riding. 6500 miles is good mileage for them, the rears don't wear too long.
 

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I think dog is a bit dazed from my experience. I've run mismatched with no problem for a long time. I did notice when I mounted the new Shinko on the front that it feels really weird compared to the other similar tires I've had. This is a matched set of Shinko's. I about to run up the mountain to break them in so maybe after a few miles it will feel better. The rear works really well so far.
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I think dog is a bit dazed from my experience. I've run mismatched with no problem for a long time. I did notice when I mounted the new Shinko on the front that it feels really weird compared to the other similar tires I've had. This is a matched set of Shinko's. I about to run up the mountain to break them in so maybe after a few miles it will feel better. The rear works really well so far.
Different strokes for different folks.
Admittedly, the tyre differences affected when I was riding high performance machines like the GSXR1000' GSX1300R Hayabusa, was told the reason was mismatched tyres, by a pro bike racer. I've always changed in pairs and never had an issue. Maybe with less aggressive accelerating bike like the V Strom may never be an issue, however, what really is the price of safety? One new front tyre?
 

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I guess I could just buy another shinko it would definitely be my cheapest option. I was just hoping to get a tire that I don't have to replace after every season. I basically got 1 year out of the Shinko. I also don't really do any off road & the shinko is much noisier on pavement. Other than the shorter lifespan I would say I liked the tire & it was great on dirt roads in town.
 

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I run mismatched all the time on my FJR, never an issue. You will find however a new front will change the turn-in (for the better), but just change each when they're worn.
 

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I did notice when I mounted the new Shinko on the front that it feels really weird compared to the other similar tires I've had. This is a matched set of Shinko's. I about to run up the mountain to break them in so maybe after a few miles it will feel better.
A common comment about the Shinko. They have a certain feel, like a squirm, that you either get used to or maybe after a few heat cycles it gets better. I don't know which but I felt it too. They are a VERY deep tread tire and I think that is where it comes from, that much depth has to have some squirm.

For a tire with deep tread, fairly wide block spacing, and meant for a dual purpose tire I have to say I felt more confident in the turns on them than the Pilot Road 3's. I considered the shinko a VERY good rain tire. They do have a bit of road noise, but considering their tread design and purpose I can overlook that. I do wish the rear tire would wear better.
 

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"I don't have to replace after every season. I basically got 1 year out of the Shinko"

That's funny! I replace tires 2-3 times year...on each bike, if the weather is good.
Shinko front still feels a bit sluggish to initiate a turn but it do stick...except on the ice I found. Zowie! Remember to slow for the shady sections after a snow storm!:yikes:
 

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Wow! I thought doing 5-6k a year in New England was good. Guess I was wrong! I think I'm just gonna pull the trigger and buy a new set. Already pulled both wheels. Just have to find the best price & order. Thanks everyone for the input!
 

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Bike tires are mismatched from the factory. The sizes are different, the tread patterns are different, etc. There really isn't any concern over having mismatched tires on a bike, at keast in any real world riding scenerio. (it is quite a different thing for cars as the forces are different.)

As far as tire life goes I typically get 12,000 to 14,000 miles from my rear Tourances and about double that for the front. I usually put two or three rears through a season and one or two fronts.

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Probably the worst possible mismatch in this case.

The rear having more grip than the front tends to result in losing the front, which in general is a lot more unpleasant than the rear sliding around a bit.

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Probably the worst possible mismatch in this case.

The rear having more grip than the front tends to result in losing the front, which in general is a lot more unpleasant than the rear sliding around a bit.

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I hear that repeated and repeated, its internet wisdom, in reality I have found it to be furthest from truth, I have infact found that good traction in the rear can save a front end that has started to wash out



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Wow! I thought doing 5-6k a year in New England was good. Guess I was wrong! I think I'm just gonna pull the trigger and buy a new set. Already pulled both wheels. Just have to find the best price & order. Thanks everyone for the input!
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" 12,000 to 14,000 miles from my rear Tourances"

You are blessed with a very steady hand. I blow away a Tourance to the wear bars in 4500-5500 miles. At 200 bucks a pop that hurts.
 

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" 12,000 to 14,000 miles from my rear Tourances"

You are blessed with a very steady hand. I blow away a Tourance to the wear bars in 4500-5500 miles. At 200 bucks a pop that hurts.
I suspect it has a lot to do with road surfaces as well.

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I hear that repeated and repeated, its internet wisdom, in reality I have found it to be furthest from truth, I have infact found that good traction in the rear can save a front end that has started to wash out
I wear out front tyres twice as fast as rears ;). My experience differs, I'd rather have the front grip, though again, I havn't had a crash from either for near 30 years.

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I wear out front tyres twice as fast as rears ;). My experience differs, I'd rather have the front grip, though again, I havn't had a crash from either for near 30 years.

Pete
ya, I ride on snow & ice, front slips and slides regularly, without a good gripping rear, I'd crash almost every time, but haven't crashed yet in conditions that put the average cage driver in the ditch



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