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FYI: in case anyone is interested, myself I think I will continue to wear my helmet. This was on the "clickondetroit" website.

Bill Passes To Allow Motorcyclists To Ride Without Helmets
Legislation Passed 66-37

POSTED: 4:54 pm EDT June 7, 2006

After hundreds of motorcycle riders rallied outside the Capitol, the state House on Wednesday passed a bill that would allow adults to ride without helmets if they meet certain criteria.

The legislation passed by a 66-37 vote. It already has passed the state Senate and is headed to Gov. Jennifer Granholm, who has concerns about the bill and could veto it, she said.

Several previous efforts at overturning the 1960s law requiring all motorcyclists to wear helmets have failed.

The legislation passed Wednesday would allow riders 21 and older to go without helmets if they have been licensed to operate a motorcycle for at least two years or have taken a safety course. Motorcyclists also would have to carry at least $10,000 in personal injury protection insurance.

Supporters of the legislation said motorcyclists should have the freedom to ride without a helmet. At least 30 other states, including some in the Midwest, give adults the option to not wear a helmet.

Some groups have argued that more out-of-state riders would be attracted to Michigan and boost the tourism industry if the mandatory helmet requirement is relaxed.

But helmet supporters said not wearing the headgear would lead to more deaths and injuries. They also said medical bills would increase, potentially affecting insurance rates.

Each survivor of a severe head injury requires between $4.1 and $9 million in care over a lifetime, according to the Michigan Association of Insurance Agents.

Supporters and opponents of the legislation disagree on how much protection helmets provide against closed-head injuries.
 

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Too bad we only have the results of the Hurt study from the 1980s to rely upon for advice.

I wouldn't trust the insurance agencies figures... I'd be looking to other states who repealed the mandatory helmet laws within the last decade. Seems like they would know how accidents increased or decreased... and how much they truly spend for non-terminal care.

They'd also know how many tourist dollars we're really missing out on from riders refusing to enter Michigan (a popular argument from the ABATE crowd).

As for me and mine, we'll continue to wear our helmets. Even if they could rip our heads off at the neck or cause blind spots that may affect our safety. :roll:

I'm better Grandholm may not veto it. Sounds like the DeVos camp claimed that the "next Governor" would not stop the movement. :!: :?: :!: :?: :?:
 

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I agree and would like a choice as to whether or not to wear a helmet. I am sure I would wear one all the time, but it would be nice to have a choice.
 

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Choice is important in ALL aspects of our lives, but wearing a helmet is a no-brainer for me: ATGATT!

I like Stromette's signature line: "Helmet laws interfere with natural selection."
 

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Well....if you Michigan people would move to Ohio, or simply come down here to ride...you would have the choice!!! :lol: Although wearing helmets, won't protect the Wolverines, when they play the Buckeyes!! :wink:
 

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Well....if you Michigan people would move to Ohio, or simply come down here to ride...you would have the choice!!! :lol: Although wearing helmets, won't protect the Wolverines, when they play the Buckeyes!! :wink:
Isn't Ohio just flat roads, factories and farm country :?: :lol: Just kidding, looks like eastern Ohio and southern Ohio has some great riding.
 

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Don't forget us 'Sconies. That would be Wisconsin to the never been here. We do not have a helmet law but you will have to filter past the millions of Harleys. Wisconsin is so under rated.
This cheeseead wears a helmet but I agree, I shouldn't be required to.
 

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laws or no laws it's not gonna make much difference as long as the definition of a helmet is just short of a cap.


I agree with most, let each rider be responsible for his own decisions.


For me helmets allow me to have fun on two wheels.
 

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I want the helmet repeal bill to pass. I hope Gov. Granholm does NOT veto it. Most of the time I will still wear a helmet, but there will be times that I will not and it will make my heart sore!

I love freedom, and laws do nothing but restrict it.

-Geoff (the other one in greater Cadillac area)
 

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I passed a douchebag riding up 35 near Cedar River on his super loud HOG on Saturday.. No lid..

I tapped the top of my helmet as I passed him and he just looked at me funny.. I'm hoping he got a ticket before reaching Escanaba.
 

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Some areas in Michigan have not been enforcing the helmet law for some time. It seems the law we do have has some problems with getting convictions anyway if the rider wishes to fight it. Some judges just throw the case out without even hearing it. Has something to do with the State Police being required to maintain a list of approved helmets. They claim any DOT helmet is approved by them but the law says a list of helmets not a description of what is approved.

What is interesting is our governor said she would veto the bill two years ago. But this is an election year and the ABATE vote could change the outcome of this election. It is that close with the last poll I saw having her opponent ahead by 1 or 2 percent. I bet she will sign it.
 

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Some areas in Michigan have not been enforcing the helmet law for some time. It seems the law we do have has some problems with getting convictions anyway if the rider wishes to fight it. Some judges just throw the case out without even hearing it. Has something to do with the State Police being required to maintain a list of approved helmets. They claim any DOT helmet is approved by them but the law says a list of helmets not a description of what is approved.

What is interesting is our governor said she would veto the bill two years ago. But this is an election year and the ABATE vote could change the outcome of this election. It is that close with the last poll I saw having her opponent ahead by 1 or 2 percent. I bet she will sign it.
She sure didn't, she is jumping all over Google coming to AnnArbor now. Honestly I wish they would let the riders make there own choice. Heck anyone without any major convictions can get and carry a gun now, why not ride without a helmet?
 

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I wish she would sign it too. I did not hear that she vetoed it yet so I think there is still hope. I think she will have to sign it to get reelected.

I am very happy with the MI CCW law now and they have done a good job of getting other states to accept it. Heck even Ohio will accept my permit even though they don't allow their own citizens to have one. How strange is that?
 

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Group ride to Traverse City october 2006

Life Cycle of Kalamazoo, Michigan is running a group trip (Fall color tour) to the Leelaneau Sands Casino just north of Traverse City Michigan on October 14th, returning on the 15th. We'll meet at 9:00 a.m. and start heading north. Should be fun. It's a nice group of people. You can find out more by going to Life Cycles website, then clicking on events, then clicking on the date of October 14th. http://www.lifecyclemotorcycles.com/event_calendar.asp There you will find the hotel number, room rate, meeting location, etc. I've already reserved my room ($50.00). Hope to see some other Vstroms there. Cool http://www.lifecyclemotorcycles.com/event_calendar.asp
 
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