[dphares]

So, thats the question.

Anyone got this combo installed? I'm a bit concerned about this "adapter sold elsewhere" line in the twisted throttle website. Is that rack all its cracked up to be? Security? Durability? Versatility? - can i really disconnect the whole thing in 30 seconds? wow!

p2 = the pelican cases, they sell for a mere $115 each, yet are light and built of what seems to be a basically indestructible resin. Am I missing anything? Most important criteria to me is to find a tough case that can take a fall and protect the bike, and of course hold my stuff... and be completely detachable, and secure. so yeah.

thx

 

[hansong]

I have the SW racks and really like them. They can be removed in 30 sec. but would be easy to steal even with the SW locks, which are a joke.
Some have used a regular pad lock in place of the rear quick release pin which would make them pretty darn hard to lift.
I went with the Seahorse cases with metal locks, which are about half the cost of Pelicans, and at least for me just as good. I scuffed one up and they replaced the lid free of charge, not even shipping.
Finally, I mounted the cases directly to the SW racks, no adapter, pucks etc..
Simply remove the rack with the case attached.

 

[BornAgain]

I have SWmotech racks with Hepco & Becker juniors. I like them very well made rack. I have the new square tube style. The adaptor for the cases bolt up to the racks and are plastic designed to fit manufactures case Givi, H&B, Trax or whatever. For Pelican cases I don't think I would bother with the adaptors. Just bolt it up to the rack if there's clearance. If not could probably use a hockey puck for a spacer.

 

[The Golden Monkey]

I can't speak to the SW-Motech rack (I use the Givi rack), but I can say Pelicans are probably the toughest cases you could use. I highsided on the highway almost 3 years ago, less than a week after installing my Caribou/Pelican cases. The bike slid down the road on the left side, then when it hit the grassy shoulder both cases popped off the rack and continued tumbling another 50-100'. The bike was totaled. The left case lid was ground down a bit, but it's still waterproof. The right case had no damage at all. After cleaning and shaving off all the furry bits (see images), I still use them on my replacement strom. No way would aluminum cases have remained usable: http://www.stromtrooper.com/general-v-strom-discussion/30096-adventures-highsiding.html

 

[nhbubba]

I have the SW racks and really like them. They can be removed in 30 sec. but would be easy to steal even with the SW locks, which are a joke.

Can anyone elaborate?

I am considering SW-MOTECH racks with pelicans (or similar) bolted directly to them. I am primarily interested in a secure solution. I am less interested in ease of mounting/unmounting. I intend to leave the cases on the bike most of the time.

The MOTECH quick release feature is nifty. But does that sacrifice security, even if combined with their locking retaining handles?

Is there a more secure option?

 

[EC90T]

Why would you buy Pelicans for $115 ea when you can buy Givi's for $140 ea (E45NJ) with free delivery? Then you can use the standard Givi mounts which will save you money as compared to the SW Motech mounts.

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[nhbubba]

Maybe because Pelican isn't the only game in town, and you can get seahorse cases for ~$50/ea.

 

[The Golden Monkey]

Why would you buy Pelicans for $115 ea when you can buy Givi's for $140 ea (E45NJ) with free delivery? Then you can use the standard Givi mounts which will save you money as compared to the SW Motech mounts.

See my post above -- a Givi case would have been in pieces.
Also the Pelican/Seahorse type cases make for a narrower overall width.

 

[EC90T]

See my post above -- a Givi case would have been in pieces.
Also the Pelican/Seahorse type cases make for a narrower overall width.

I have rashed Givi's and seen other pic's of Givi's that have taken similar hits with the about the same outcome. The difference is you can buy just the outer shell for the Givi's and have non damaged parts. There's no denying the width is greater on the Givi's, but increased capacity comes at a price. I have been running Givi luggage for nearly 20 years and they have never failed or leaked on me.

I don't want to sound condescending, but those pelican/caribou/seahorse etc.. cases scream cheap to me much like seeing a bike with Shinko's on it. I won't even bother to go look at a motorcycle adorned with such items (if I'm in the market) as it always makes me wonder what else was cheaped on? I look for motorcycles that are immaculately clean and have quality accessories on them. You should have seen the field day I had selling V-Stars when Honda started equiping new shadow 750's with Chen Sheng tires new. I would point this out to customers and they would come to the same conclusion, CHEAP! This is just 15 years of working in motorcycle dealerships education speaking. YMMV

 

[Dirt_Dad]

I have the SW racks and really like them. They can be removed in 30 sec. but would be easy to steal even with the SW locks, which are a joke.

Why are the locks a joke? I just installed a set of SWM to my S10 yesterday and noticed they really aren't secure. Are the locks problematic?

 

[The Golden Monkey]

I have rashed Givi's and seen other pic's of Givi's that have taken similar hits with the about the same outcome. The difference is you can buy just the outer shell for the Givi's and have non damaged parts. There's no denying the width is greater on the Givi's, but increased capacity comes at a price. I have been running Givi luggage for nearly 20 years and they have never failed or leaked on me.

I don't want to sound condescending, but those pelican/caribou/seahorse etc.. cases scream cheap to me much like seeing a bike with Shinko's on it. I won't even bother to go look at a motorcycle adorned with such items (if I'm in the market) as it always makes me wonder what else was cheaped on? I look for motorcycles that are immaculately clean and have quality accessories on them. You should have seen the field day I had selling V-Stars when Honda started equiping new shadow 750's with Chen Sheng tires new. I would point this out to customers and they would come to the same conclusion, CHEAP! This is just 15 years of working in motorcycle dealerships education speaking. YMMV

There are at least a couple of stromtroopers who got replacement lids from pelican cases after theirs were damaged in crashes, I think even for free. And I've got nothing against Givi by the way, I have a Givi V46 topcase that has served me well.

If you actually don't want to sound condescending, I would recommend you avoid using phrases like "I won't even bother to go look at a motorcycle adorned with such items". Also you might want to do a little research on pelican cases before you go calling them cheap and low quality like a Cheng Shin tire. There's a reason pelican and similar cases are ubiquitous in the military; countless police and fire departments, EMT and rescue services; the movie industry (which definitely does not cheap on equipment); and for anyone else, like scientists and pretty much every professional photographer, who needs a tough case to protect their stuff from shock and harsh conditions while they carry it around. They may not have been manufactured expressly as motorcycle luggage, but that doesn't prevent them being well suited to the job. Some people even like the look. Personally I'm not a big fan of how they look on a bike, but they don't offend me and I don't much care whether anyone else likes them. I am a big fan (obviously) of their functionality, toughness, and size.

 

[hansong]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I really like the way my black Vee looks with the Seahorse cases, my son thinks it look like a James Bond bike. In fact at least to my eye, the Givi E45's look "cheaper", kinda like the budget JC Whitney box.
As far as the SW locks go, I jumped the gun by saying they are junk. I have no personal experience with them, simply taking the advice of another biker I met at bike night. He said he had them, and that just about anybody could twist them off by hand. His solution was to remove the quick release pin on the top rear, same place you would use the SW lock, and insert a heavy keyed lock with a shank the same size diameter as the hole for a nice tight solid fit.
I thought it sounded like a great idea but I haven't gotten around to doing it.
Lastly, the SeaHorse cases. Again to me they look awesome, customer service is great, I am one of the guy's who got a free case lid with free shipping under warranty because I screwed it up in a moment of stupidity. And finally they are inexpensive, not "cheap" but inexpensive.