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No way they will be outlawed in the states.......will NEVER happen. If anything there will eventually be a crack down on noise restrictions and actually enforced, smart phones while driving is the real problem here......not loud exhausts.
 
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We should be as loud as possible now, while we still can.

C'mon, it's a joke!

We may have mufflers on cows here before anything gets done on vehicle noise. Best, DD
 

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Motorcycles are being wrongly targeted, some of the worst daily offenders of noise are semi's and dump trucks. Hopped up Subarus and Honda Civics, they wail around every bit as loud as many bikes, I mean where could it potentially end with noise restrictions and bans/fines? I'm good with fines, but outright bans would be completely out of line and out of control government overreach.
 
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Motorcycles are being wrongly targeted, some of the worst daily offenders of noise are semi's and dump trucks. Hopped up Subarus and Honda Civics, they wail around every bit as loud as many bikes, I mean where could it potentially end with noise restrictions and bans/fines? I'm good with fines, but outright bans would be completely out of line and out of control government overreach in America.
You forgot 2 words at the end.

In the People's republic of Canada or the European Union of Socialist Republics Governmental overreach is common to save the people from themselves.
 

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I don't think Canada's current government gives a damn about motorcycle noise. But I do think that they would see any excuse to place restrictions on them as a way to reduce fuel usage, which is their primary concern. And it wouldn't matter how trivial the reductions would be, they'd wrap it up as a harmless way to move towards a cleaner environment and wouldn't listen to any reasonable argument.
 

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Motorcycles are being wrongly targeted, some of the worst daily offenders of noise are semi's and dump trucks. Hopped up Subarus and Honda Civics, they wail around every bit as loud as many bikes, I mean where could it potentially end with noise restrictions and bans/fines? I'm good with fines, but outright bans would be completely out of line and out of control government overreach.

Motorcycles are less than 5% of registered vehicles (in the US) typically. We're more of an annoyance to most drivers than viable transportation. Heck most riders only ride recreationally.

Wouldn't take much to shut down riding all together if the majority of car drivers wanted. All the stunter guys blocking freeways or the urban guys tearing around on dirt bikes are ticking people off I'm sure. The guy blasting his exhaust when people are trying to have a conversation isn't good for non-riders perception.

True bikes might not be banned outright but they could be so neutured down no one would want to ride them. You know cause it's not safe for some kid to be able to buy a motorcycle that has high end exotic car performance!
 

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You forgot 2 words at the end.

In the People's republic of Canada or the European Union of Socialist Republics Governmental overreach is common to save the people from themselves.
It can happen in the U. S. just as easily. All it takes is the right signature on a piece of paper and it becomes law. Get enough people to become vocal about any issue and enough politicians to decide it's their best bet for re-election, bam!
 

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I dislike loud exhausts on any kind of vehicle personally, as they diminish my enjoyment of my property and various other venues, with no real benefit to anyone other than the riders/drivers who like them. They are a detriment to quality of life to everyone within earshot.

Excuses and rationalizations for why loud exhausts are ok, good, great, etc are many, and pretty much all equally rubbish. "They save lives". "It's my constitutional right." "A proper exhaust is too expensive." "It improves performance." "I just like the sound and attention and every one who doesn't like it can eat a bag of dicks." Oh, sorry, that last one is a true reason that crept in by accident.
 

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Motorcycles are less than 5% of registered vehicles (in the US) typically. We're more of an annoyance to most drivers than viable transportation. Heck most riders only ride recreationally.

Wouldn't take much to shut down riding all together if the majority of car drivers wanted. All the stunter guys blocking freeways or the urban guys tearing around on dirt bikes are ticking people off I'm sure. The guy blasting his exhaust when people are trying to have a conversation isn't good for non-riders perception.

True bikes might not be banned outright but they could be so neutured down no one would want to ride them. You know cause it's not safe for some kid to be able to buy a motorcycle that has high end exotic car performance!
Nah THEY have bigger fish to fry, perhaps jet skis, snow mobiles and boats are in just as much of an eventual pickle? I see maybe aftermarket exhausts being banned at the most for motorcycles, and perhaps some noise ordinances being enforced and fines given out. Too many vehicles can make this criteria for excessive noise, motorcycles for whatever reason are being wrongly targeted when so many others are simply being ignored. Loud music could be next, loud lawnmowers and various lawn equipment.....see the slippery slope?
 
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In the good ole US of A we have constitutional rights. Freedom is a beautiful thing.
You do not have the freedom to sit outside in the street with a bullhorn all night long. It's disturbing the peace.

I don't have the freedom to ignore the obnoxious noises in my house, or while I'm on the road. There are a laws and reasons cars have mufflers in the first place--for this exact reason.

Again--your rights end where other's begin.

For me it's not as much about the motorcycles as the bro-dozers. For every harley or ricer out there with loud pipes there's 50 country boys in loud pickups.
 

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They operate in a relatively remote environment, so probably under the radar of noise police.
Noise is one of the concerns that gets boats and jet skis banned from some lakes.
I've lived by a lake. Nothing like the pleasure of listening to somebody going around and round in circles jumping their own wake.
In the winter you'd get guys hooning across the lake at high speed in loud snowmobiles, but at least they were soon far away. Kind of like sport bikes on the street - at least when they're loud they're usually soon far away.
 

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I think we should ask ourselves.....should I leave my bike exhaust alone so it is quiet, because it is the right thing to do, or because the establishment may catch me?

Has anybody ever heard the philosophy......you should judge a man by what he does when nobody is watching.

Inside I smile when the "loud pipers" who crave the attention so much, are really being looked at as class A douche bags, except by their fellow loud pipers.
 

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Maybe a few eggs on hot pipes might get the message across ....bitch to clean. ☕
 

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ST .you should judge a man by what he does when nobody is watching.

brilliant and beautiful. well done that man. and perhaps a colloray. the asshats who use loud pipes to gain attention would not do it if there was no one around to notice them.
 

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I inherited a Road King from my father. God rest his soul, he had put on some "look at me" slip on mufflers. When he passed away, I went to Florida and got it and rode it home. I was somewhere around an hour into the ride and my head was killing me. Even with ear plugs it was obnoxious.

Once back in Kentucky, I started sorting the RK out and cleaning it up. I wanted the OEM quiet pipes. I was in a HD dealer and asked the parts guy about getting a pair of mufflers. Of course he was going to sell me something that made some noise. I told him my issue and that I wanted stock pipes. He sent me back to service. They must have had a dozen pairs of take offs piled in a bin. They gave me a pair, brand new, perfect chrome.

I got home and was happy as a clam with my quiet bike. I thought of selling the loud pair for about 1 minute, picked up a BFH and wailed on them until they were scrap metal. They went in the trash.
 

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Maybe a few eggs on hot pipes might get the message across ....bitch to clean. ☕
And there we go!
When "they" do decide its time to ban motorcycles, it will be quick and easy. We modern motorcyclists have become hyper-tribal. I'm not singling out Macdoc but I have been waiting to see how long it would take for the tribe to decide to punish another tribe. We have been dividing our ranks more and more since (IMHO) the Honda transverse four came out. We love our bikes so much that we self-stigmatize. Every other stigmatized tribe is just in our way. We are divided. Heck, we bash group rides. Everyone else is too dangerous to ride with except for me and my four buddies. (87% of riders consider themselves to above average:))

Mind you this is not me defending bad behavior. But I can pretty much promise you that "they" won't use loud and rude as the main reason to do away with motorbikes because that problem is correctable. It will be a much loftier social protection and pocketbook reason that gets marched out. Let's face it we are 9% soaking wet. Yet we, by and large, would rather get our Klim jacket a week earlier than support a national lobbying organization for our own self interest because we default to a stigma which hasn't been reexamined since Marlin Brando was still alive.
 

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And there we go!
When "they" do decide its time to ban motorcycles, it will be quick and easy. We modern motorcyclists have become hyper-tribal. I'm not singling out Macdoc but I have been waiting to see how long it would take for the tribe to decide to punish another tribe. We have been dividing our ranks more and more since (IMHO) the Honda transverse four came out. We love our bikes so much that we self-stigmatize. Every other stigmatized tribe is just in our way. We are divided. Heck, we bash group rides. Everyone else is too dangerous to ride with except for me and my four buddies. (87% of riders consider themselves to above average:))

Mind you this is not me defending bad behavior. But I can pretty much promise you that "they" won't use loud and rude as the main reason to do away with motorbikes because that problem is correctable. It will be a much loftier social protection and pocketbook reason that gets marched out. Let's face it we are 9% soaking wet. Yet we, by and large, would rather get our Klim jacket a week earlier than support a national lobbying organization for our own self interest because we default to a stigma which hasn't been reexamined since Marlin Brando was still alive.
There are a lot of words above that are confusing to me. Let me see if I have this correct.....

Point 1 - dividing our ranks. Is your point we should not bash the cruiser guys making noise because there is power in numbers and everybody is against motorcycles (or at least ambivalent). Well, I equally dislike loud pipes, irrespective of bike brand. Put a loud pipe on a Super Tenere and you reach douche baggism in my mind.

Point 2 - this is even grayer to me. Are we adding to the stigma on motorcyclists, when we stand up and criticize when we disagree with what a fellow rider is doing?
 
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