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Time for tires. I’m looking for some sticky ones. The problem is the front. Not really any good sticky tires in that size. Any recommendations?
 

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This comes up from time to time and proper riding technique it the key. Its 90% rider and 10% equipment.

I was riding with a friend earlier this year he was on a 800GS with well worn TKX80's. It was a rainy morning in Eastern TN where the mountain roads are extremely twisty and technical. He comfortably went through each and every turn faster than 90% of folks could do in the dry with the tire and bike of their choosing.


The tries and pavement were cold and wet from the rain. The tires were easily 75% worn out. The tires were open tread pattern big block designed for 50/50 street/dirt. But yet the talent won out over the equipment.
 

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Good to know. I’ve nearly got steel bands showing and I’m a good rider so guess I’ll pile on 10,000 more miles...lol. Just kidding. I completely agree. I’d still like sticky tires.

I’ve got road 4’s now. They were ok but the front went way before the rear. Probably because I don’t use the rear brake at all. It also developed a really terrible wear pattern around 2000 miles. I don’t think I’m going with those again. I’d really like to put some pure powers on but can’t find a front in this size.
 

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Good to know. I’ve nearly got steel bands showing and I’m a good rider so guess I’ll pile on 10,000 more miles...lol. Just kidding. I completely agree. I’d still like sticky tires.

I’ve got road 4’s now. They were ok but the front went way before the rear. Probably because I don’t use the rear brake at all. It also developed a really terrible wear pattern around 2000 miles. I don’t think I’m going with those again. I’d really like to put some pure powers on but can’t find a front in this size.
The front tire is the one that wears under breaking more so than the rear. The rear is worn by hard acceleration and aggressive down shifting/breaking where the tire slides.

Point and shoot riders where they go hot into a turn then stab the breaks at the last second slow the bike will wear the front then when they hammer the throttle powering out of the turn will wear the rear.

People who ride smooth go into turns a bit slower but carry speed through turn are not as hard on tires and most of the time faster. Smooth riding is a fluid motion. Point and shoot is fast then slow down then speed up.
 

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"Its 90% rider and 10% equipment. "

The Pucker Factor! Some of us freak out at a different level that others.
When people ride over their head that is what creates the pucker factor.

Improper technique or trying to ride above you ability and a false sense of security that a piece of equipment will compensate for it is recipe for disaster.
 

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When people ride over their head that is what creates the pucker factor.

Improper technique or trying to ride above you ability and a false sense of security that a piece of equipment will compensate for it is recipe for disaster.
Agree 100%...
However, if I find myself in a (very infrequent) hot turn, I'd rather have my Road 5's than the stock Battlax, in both the dry, and especially the wet...
 

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Good to know. I’ve nearly got steel bands showing and I’m a good rider so guess I’ll pile on 10,000 more miles...lol. Just kidding. I completely agree. I’d still like sticky tires.

I’ve got road 4’s now. They were ok but the front went way before the rear. Probably because I don’t use the rear brake at all. It also developed a really terrible wear pattern around 2000 miles. I don’t think I’m going with those again. I’d really like to put some pure powers on but can’t find a front in this size.
My last set were pr4trail 4s. Front dead at 8k. When I changed then was shocked how thin and pliable front tire was. I just put anakee 3s on and I love them way more. Bike feels way more top heavy and ready to dip into a corner. I like that feeling personally. Only 280 miles so far but I'm a huge fan. Not to mention they are on crackhead clearance right now.
 

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I've been running Avon TrailRiders and been happy with this 80-20 tire. Agree with previous posts about riding technique on the big Strom...fast is smooth and smooth is fast. FWIW, I have found that this bike settles into turns much better, with less brake dive and more chassis stability if I use some rear brake. Trail braking with the front brake is also a valuable skill for fast, smooth riding in the technical stuff (which I love!). I learned to ride motorcycles on sportbikes on a racetrack... although those skills are invaluable, and the V-Strom IS a great road bike, it is much more enjoyable to ride when not charging corners and heating up the front brake and tire. YMMV.

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I just took off a metzler tourance next, which was very sticky and responsive in corners, and replaced with a metzler karoo street, which looks like an 80/20 tire. First ride on my local mt road and the karoo hooks up just as good as the t- nxt. To be fair, the stock trail wings felt great too, so it's like they say, mostly the skill of the rider.
(The tourance next, at 9500 miles, was worn out, but worn very evenly. The stock trail wing front was cupped badly at 6100. )
 

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I’ve got road 4’s now. They were ok but the front went way before the rear. Probably because I don’t use the rear brake at all. It also developed a really terrible wear pattern around 2000 miles. I don’t think I’m going with those again. I’d really like to put some pure powers on but can’t find a front in this size.
We share the dislike for the Michelin PR4's. Just fine for going A to B, but if you push the bike HARD in turns they are not fine at all. Especially braking into a turn. They squirm. Cannot say the new Road 5 would be better, on the BMW forums some think it too lacks for aggressive riders.

I am running the new Bridgestone T-31's and will tell you they give confidence at maximum lean angles on the RT. I think they have sizes for the Stroms. If you don't mind a bit of noise and lower mileage, the Dunlop Roadsmart III tires are absolutely great at max lean angles. Both of these are Sport Touring type tires.......but mine have more miles on gravel than you might guess!
 
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I am running for some sportbikes and grinding the toes off my Boots with my 804/805 SHinkos. I hit toe or peg feelers all the time....

I do only get about 6K out of them.... but they are sticky, and work good in the dirt stuff....
 

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Road 5's. The profile works really well with a DL1000 and life is also very good. Yes yes, rider makes a difference but insane levels of grip help as well and these things are insane.

Unlike the PR4's they have SOME dirt capability, a minute amount but the PR4's had none. I wouldn't deliberately take dirt roads on them but road works aren't as horrific as they were with the PR4's.
 

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The pirelli angel gt ang gt2 look interesting but I’m not finding the right size for the front.
 

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Look to Metzeler Roadtec 01 for a very sticky tyre giving reasonable mileage.
 

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You aren't going to get rid of the squirm by changing tires. a 19" front and long suspension will squirm compared to a sportsbike no matter what and grippier tires will probably make that worse.

Hint, some of that is the front end flexing, it's not just the tire and the more grip the front tire has the higher the forces are on that (relatively) flexy front end.
 

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I've been happy with both Michelins and Metzlers, both make good dual-compound tires that are also pretty good on wet roads.


That said, a +1 for what PeteW and others are mentioning about this type of motorcycle, it's not going to handle like a sport chassis because it isn't one. My '19 1000XT has passed the 200kmh (123mph) test a few times on the Autobahn, sure as beans it has power enough to go notably faster but I feel like she really isn't built to go that fast. At road speeds the bike does a great job on twisty roads, but even with the suspension cranked up tight the machine feels a bit loose at high speeds. Take 'er easy, enjoy the ride =)
 
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