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Who is there my 2018 DL1000 ADV. with Idle Hammer. After 43 new Motorcycles Dirt and Street first new bike that the engine had a loud knock, my neighbors can hear me when I pull in the garage. The big boys says it does not hurt anything well it sure hurts pride of ownership. Guess I had better call Werks for a fix. I read all good reports in the Cycle Rags no mention of this I should have done more research shame on me...:frown2:
 

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It's funny how important expectation is. Car and bike forums are full of reports of things people don't like yet just about every individual unit of a particular make and model has. It's far easier and cheaper to change one's expectation but also rarer. I once had my heart set on a certain model car but the turn signal did not click and my elbow hit something on the center console every time I shifted gears. I knew I'd never get used to those things. Magazine coverage of the model revealed other inadequacies so I was glad in retrospect. I was fine with V-Strom noise because almost every bike I owned before was air cooled and noisier.
 

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Before you toss the bike out with the bathwater, give the Werks a try - it's a fairly easy install. It didn't eliminate the noise on mine, but did greatly reduce the volume.
 

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Before you toss the bike out with the bathwater, give the Werks a try - it's a fairly easy install. It didn't eliminate the noise on mine, but did greatly reduce the volume.
Not going to toss the Bike, I have been on Werks website and have been doing a lot reading on the issue. Have had a lot of bikes that had valve & cam chain noise, my dl650 clutch noise. First for me with a Knock deep in the engine. I expected better I will live with it Ear plugs are my Friend...Other wise I love the bike...
 

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It's all a matter of perspective.

My 04 DL1000 came to me with with the lurching, coughing, and bucking that the first gen bikes are famous for. It was nearly unrideable at low speed/rpm. It also has a pretty bad case of the chudder, vertigo inducing buffeting, an extremely abrupt throttle, and I can't add any risers because apparently I have the shortest brake lines in North America (go me).

It took a while but I finally got most of it under control and still have a few items left to address. After dealing with all that and all the comfort issues I just don't care about the idle hammer.
 

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Yes I agree Old Codger pride of ownership, purchased my 2017 Dl1000XT last September initially zero problems ,and basically on the way home after the first oil change idle knock became very apparent. I was very disappointed in this , I realise no bike is perfect but I’m fussy so purchased the Werks idle tamer from Terry and while it didn’t totally eliminate the knock it’s reduced it significantly.
It’s unusual as not all bikes do it , buddy rides a 2016 with nil issues .
Will ride on ,did a 450 km ride today which was awesome .
 

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I've got 4500 miles on my 2018 DL1000XT and the engine sounds great warming up from a cold start, and it still sounds great after it's warmed up and while I'm riding it.
 

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I've got 4500 miles on my 2018 DL1000XT and the engine sounds great warming up from a cold start, and it still sounds great after it's warmed up and while I'm riding it.
Sounds like you are one of the lucky ones:thumbup:. If it had Idle Hammer you would sure know it. Not all of the DL 1000 have it. I like what you have done to your Bike looks Great.:smile2:
 

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It's funny how important expectation is. Car and bike forums are full of reports of things people don't like yet just about every individual unit of a particular make and model has. It's far easier and cheaper to change one's expectation but also rarer. I once had my heart set on a certain model car but the turn signal did not click and my elbow hit something on the center console every time I shifted gears. I knew I'd never get used to those things. Magazine coverage of the model revealed other inadequacies so I was glad in retrospect. I was fine with V-Strom noise because almost every bike I owned before was air cooled and noisier.
So true! I am currently researching new vehicles for my wife. I bought a Jeep Wrangler Recon in September for me. They are an unusual vehicle compared to most. I like it. A lot so far. Logged in to Consumer reports where the vehicle I was researching for her got a score of 81. Which is well above average. Well, let's check the Jeep! 23!!!! Wow, had I read that and really trusted CR to be the final word I would NEVER have bought the Jeep!

There is too much information available today.......
 

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WERKS Idle Hammer Tamers won't always completely eliminate the noise. But they will reduce it so that it isn't obvious. The 2014 and up DL 1000 is more prone to Idle Hammer, and it seems to be louder than the first generation. They have a completely different crankshaft. I suspect it is heavier, which might explain the increased noise and why the Tamers I make seem to be more effective in first generation bikes.
 

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I want to move to the DL1000, but this will stop me. If spent the money on a "new bike" and it had the idle hammer issue, I would be getting ride of it and hating on Suzuki. I expect a new bike to behave. It's a bit like....."Sure, your new DL comes with a short exhaust manifold, it's really loud, but doesn't hurt anything. Just wear ear plugs." I call BS on Suzuki for that. Just my 2 cents of course, other opinions will vary.

The new DL1000 is almost a really nice bike. Make ABS on/off, eliminate idle hammer. It's only been 10 years of this issue. Suzuki clearly doesn't plan on doing anything.
 

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I want to move to the DL1000, but this will stop me. If spent the money on a "new bike" and it had the idle hammer issue, I would be getting ride of it and hating on Suzuki. I expect a new bike to behave. It's a bit like....."Sure, your new DL comes with a short exhaust manifold, it's really loud, but doesn't hurt anything. Just wear ear plugs." I call BS on Suzuki for that. Just my 2 cents of course, other opinions will vary.

The new DL1000 is almost a really nice bike. Make ABS on/off, eliminate idle hammer. It's only been 10 years of this issue. Suzuki clearly doesn't plan on doing anything.
Thing is.......it's not an issue. :wink2:I agree it shouldn't be doing it, but wouldn't stop me from getting one. Still several things Zuk needs to do for making both models more on par with the competition, but the 1000 is much closer than the 650. I am furious that the 650's don't have the brakes and suspension of the 1000.......absurd!!!!
 

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Time to to make a confession.

I thought all this idle hammer talk was a mixed problem of a few bike's having some issues mixed with power of suggestion and high expectations. Then it happened all at once one day. A loud noise at idle and suddenly I knew what everybody was talking about. Any illusions of this not being a big deal was gone. Nothing to do but ride home. Then at the next stop it was gone. Vanished as if it had never been there. For now it hasn't come back.

2014 DL1000 with ~30K miles probably occurred at about 20K miles.
 

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I want to move to the DL1000, but this will stop me. If spent the money on a "new bike" and it had the idle hammer issue, I would be getting ride of it and hating on Suzuki. I expect a new bike to behave.
They do behave. This will never leave you stranded or require repair. It is simply a characteristic of the bike. I have talked owners out of buying my Idle Hammer Tamer because they don't really need it. Some assume it is damaging the engine, my explanation of what and how it is eased their worries. I can tell you that there are things on a new Super Tenere that bother me worse than Idle Hammer ever did......
 

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It gets back to expectations, I believe Greywolf mentioned that early on in the thread. If I was buying a 2006 DL1000 for what I considered a good price, and I knew it had IH issue, I may buy it anyway. I would be choosing the noise as part of the deal. However, if I was to go plop down 10k for a newish DL1000, and then it developed this issue, I would not be happy. :furious: I need to "like" my bike, it's part of my thing and important in my relationship with my 2 wheeled girlfriend.

So you ask if I'm saying ...if my wife developed a loud farting problem, would I want to get rid of her? No, that is a long term custom build with years and $$ invested. No matter what problems pop up, I'll just have to live with it. :grin2: Motorcycles? Not so much.
 

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So you ask if I'm saying ...if my wife developed a loud farting problem, would I want to get rid of her?
See, now you have upset me. My wife's flatulence is most obvious. She has always told me it was normal. Now.....now I wonder and am upset!
 

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Just wear ear plugs. If you need a gas mask, that might fall under warranty coverage.
 
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