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What a pain that was! I wanted to install the V46 case and the lighting system and the tailblazer. The wires are SO short in the tail section you have to remove the entire back of the bike! Once you have, the wires are still so bloody short that it was almost impossible to get the Kisan unit and the givi telcos in before the splitter! I had to put the Telco in after the splitter -- which seemed to cause no harm.

Question: The biggest pain was installing the ground from the Kisan. The whole brake light won't fire without it. After trying a bunch of stuff, I eventually put it on one of the two large allen key bolts that hold the tail section on. To do this, I had to file away some of the black powder coating to make a good contact. I might one day have to redo this, as water could get up there. Anyone have better luck?/method?
 

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Mattpeyton you should undo the groung to the tail section bolt now and re run a new ground wire directly to the - negative terminal of the battery .....:shock:
The frame of the DL650 & DL1000 are never to be used for grounding your electrical system....
 

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VtSTROM-K5 said:
Mattpeyton you should undo the groung to the tail section bolt now and re run a new ground wire directly to the - negative terminal of the battery .....:shock:
The frame of the DL650 & DL1000 are never to be used for grounding your electrical system....
What he said! That's an aluminum frame, and running power through it will have unpleasent effects.
 

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I've redone it twice now..

everything seems fine -- what are the unpleasant effects? I took a nice long ride this evening all good.
 

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I tried the gray wire

which is the negative of the tail light and the kisan system wouldn't work. any ideas? I could get a longer wire and reopen the SOB to get the ground to the neg terminal - but are we sure that's the way to go? I thought we had positive, negative AND grounding? I'm a bit forgetful of my basic electrical stuff can someone suggest? I bet the kisan only sends out milivolts -- I can't imagine i'm doing URGENT damage to the frame... :oops:
 

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Mattpeyton, believe it. The ground wire should go directly to the neg on the battery or bad things happen over time. There is a bad reaction when the current tries to go from aluminum to metal framework. Just extend the ground wire and tuck it in so it is out of harm's way. That said, now I need the courage to rip apart the tail section again to install my brake modulator.
 

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One more question

So, last night I tried to tap the negative wire COMING BACK from the tail light section - the gray wire. The givi system is also tapping this and it works fine. The kisan wouldn't ground to this. Anyone know why?
 

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Re: One more question

mattpeyton said:
So, last night I tried to tap the negative wire COMING BACK from the tail light section - the gray wire. The givi system is also tapping this and it works fine. The kisan wouldn't ground to this. Anyone know why?
You didn't say what bike you were installing this on, and your profile doesn't say what bike you have (you really ought to fix that). I can only speak from experience on the DL650. The gray wire is the tail light wire so you can't ground to it. The three wires running each lamp in the to the rear bulb assembly are: gray=tail light, black/white stripe=ground, white/black stripe=stop light. Hope that helps.
 

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Gray is listed as ground on Givi Site...

Rev,

Here is a quote from the Givi site. I have a DL 650 Vstrom 2006 -- I'm new to the group. I set the telcos for the Givi Box to the gray wire and the white with black stripe as Givi specified on the Twisted Throttle site. I have pasted this info in and put the URL in too.

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/102

Note for users of Givi brakelight kits
When using Givi brakelight kits with the E528 topplate, the following wiring connections should be made for 2002 DL1000 (later models may differ):

Givi light kit blue (+) :: DL1000 brake light hot wire - white w/ black stripe (+)
Givi light kit black (-) :: DL1000 brake light ground wire - gray (-)
The third wire on the brakelights, black with white stripe (+), is a running light and should not be used.


Givi E-series topcase racks are for use with Givi Monokey topcases ONLY and are NOT compatible with Givi Monolock topcases.
 

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Twisted Throttle Site Wrong

The rev is right. I was actually connecting box to both hot, running and brake, and grounding to chassis through the Kisan unit. Now, all squared away -- works like it should. Man, those incorrect instructions on Twisted Throttle cost me a bunch of time!
 

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mattpeyton, Glad you got it figgerd out . :)
Now, can you post some pics?? :?
 

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mattpeyton said:
The rev is right. I was actually connecting box to both hot, running and brake, and grounding to chassis through the Kisan unit. Now, all squared away -- works like it should. Man, those incorrect instructions on Twisted Throttle cost me a bunch of time!
Glad it worked out for ya, Bro. I was about to follow those same instructions when I installed the light kit on my V46 topcase; luckily I took a minute to review my DL650 wiring diagram and spotted the discrepancy. I'm about to post a review of the Givi light kit on my site and maybe it will save some other owner the same headache we had.
 

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Rev, thanks for the color coding for the tail/brake lite. I should be able to follow the wires further forward for an easier install of the brake modulator and avoid pulling the tail section apart. It is a PITA.
 

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The Wires Get Awfully Bundled

I didn't want to cut into the bundles. The back of the bike isn't all that hard, actually. Four rack bolts #10 socket, two side bolts with #4 allen key. It's pretty smart -- they bundled all those butt connectors in a waterproof secret compartment under the tail light.
 

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Mattpeyton, I hear ya. Was there once already when installing hardware for Shad side cases and extra LED tail light. Now it would be a real chore undoing a lot of stuff so I will just tap into the wiring further forward for the brake lite modulator. The unit is small enough to fit almost anywhere. Now both ends will modulate.
 
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