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I have a 2012 WEE that I love. But since I started commuting 100-110 miles everyday I have developed some issues. Throttle hand is giving me issues, yes I don't squeeze hard done all that. Put 1x1 risers on bike and throttle lock. Helped a little bit not fixing the problem. Plus I'm getting lots of cold blast now that it's winter need to change out to better wind screen for winter.

So choices are:
1. Put brake away crude control. Mechanics at shop love it
2. Put 2x2s on also ( don't trust myself to do) because of brake line being moved
3. Get a wind screen but what kind? 5'8" but big torso

I am considering possibly a Yamaha fjr 1300 or a triumph tiger explorer XC.

Both good bikes for commuting.

I do like my WEE and would rather fix problem. But getting tired.
By the way it's a 2012

Thanks.
Ps. Don't say " don't squeeze" grips because I don't. It's a distance thing with bars. Has to be.

Thanks
D.C.
 

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Things may have changed since, but I had a 2005 FJR1300. The handlebar put my hands at a slightly odd angle, causing discomfort on rides of any distance over 25 miles. Also it's a bit wider, which for me forced my knees at an uncomfortable angle. (I like keeping my feet parallel with the bike) The FJR is a great machine with power to spare, a real mile-eater, good suspension and great aerodynamics with the right screen. (to prevent head buffeting) After crashing it, I replaced it with an '07 FZ6. Also a great mile-eater. But truth be told, I was more comfortable on the FZ6 and now the DL650.

Ride one before you shell out the coins. I've never ridden the Triumph so I can't offer any information there.

And I definitely understand. I've had four spine surgeries. C-5, C-6, & C-7 are fused in the neck. Both arms are prone to go numb and tingly in seconds unless I keep everything in just the right position. Good luck finding a solution or better fit.
 

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Need some advise group.



I have a 2012 WEE that I love. But since I started commuting 100-110 miles everyday I have developed some issues. Throttle hand is giving me issues, yes I don't squeeze hard done all that. Put 1x1 risers on bike and throttle lock. Helped a little bit not fixing the problem. Plus I'm getting lots of cold blast now that it's winter need to change out to better wind screen for winter.



So choices are:

1. Put brake away crude control. Mechanics at shop love it

2. Put 2x2s on also ( don't trust myself to do) because of brake line being moved

3. Get a wind screen but what kind? 5'8" but big torso



I am considering possibly a Yamaha fjr 1300 or a triumph tiger explorer XC.



Both good bikes for commuting.



I do like my WEE and would rather fix problem. But getting tired.

By the way it's a 2012



Thanks.

Ps. Don't say " don't squeeze" grips because I don't. It's a distance thing with bars. Has to be.



Thanks

D.C.


I have a 2012 DL650 as well. I put on Oxford grips and grip puppies over them. For me it made a big difference in the grip as it is a much larger circumference and less cramping. Also have Kaoko throttle lock but never really use it. I put in a Givi airflow soon after getting the bike and Agustus deflectors which really fixed the buffeting and airflow issues. Lastly and most recently I put on 2” Rox risers and +2” SS brake line kit from SV racing. The difference is unbelievable and worth every penny. Should have done IR long ago. I had a local mechanic do the brake lines for me and it was money well spent! I still need to do some longer rides to know for sure but feel like this was the best of all. Lastly, my new Terry Adcox seat should be here in 2 days!

I love the Vstrom but I’m a big dude at 6’3” 250lbs so lots of mods were necessary and have really made it MUCH EASIER to do 100+ mile rides.

Good luck!



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I too had throttle hand issues, and I too have a throttle lock (kaoko). It didn't start working for me until I made a concious effort to really use it. Once I did, the pain/discomfort went away.


Do you actually use your throttle lock as much as possible? I mean, you can have if partially activated almost all the time, so it really takes the stress off a lot of the time.

The other thing that helped was installing a 2" rox riser. I didn't need to replace brake/clutch lines as I rerouted them in front of the handlebars (rather than behind).

Givi airflow solved all wind issues for me.

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There's always the Rostra universal cruise control unit. But I've no idea what a mechanic would charge to install one on a bike or if they even would. I'm guessing its viability as an option would be self-installation or assistance from a member that has installed one on a DL.
 

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Grip buddies, cramp buster and throttle lock.

GoCruise2 is simple and cheap...larger grips ( Grip buddies etc ) help especially with winter gloves

Cramp buster keeps your wrist straight.

Madstad brackets and screen #1 farkle
 

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Don't be afraid to rotate your handlebars slightly closer towards you, loosen the perches and re-adjust. A slight tweak makes a world of difference.
The foot peg lowering kit is essential for the 12-16 Strom as well. Way better ergos.
Can't speak on the Madstad, but the Givi Airflow was an improvement for me. Jeffro (above poster) has the right idea with the winglets; Aprillia Tuono mirrors apparently help too.

About the forearm... 2 Advil 4Xday for 2 weeks. Rub some anti-inflammitory creme on at the same time. Thank me later.
 

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Buy a used Super Tenere. They seem to be bargain priced and might be perfect for your application.
 

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I put the Rostra on both my DL650's and won't own another road bike without 'eeee lec tronic' CC again. Also, if your hands are going numb quickly then consider carpal tunnel surgery. I had my right done and after it healed I was appalled at how bad my left was so I got it done too. I do long days in the saddle on my trips(10+ hrs) and numb hands are no longer an issue.
 

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I had some bad wrist pain on my '06 650, but after removing the "grip puppies" installed by the previous owner and putting on my throttle rocker, it was better.

If your hands are getting cold and you don't have plastic handguards, install a set. They make a really big difference in winter and in foul weather.

With a commute that long, I would be looking at an ST1300, FJR, or Concours. You'll take a hit to fuel economy, but the weather protection is better and will ease the fatigue.
 

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I'm really thinking if I can fix the bar issues that will be the deciding factor. Glad yours is working out ???
 

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I had some bad wrist pain on my '06 650, but after removing the "grip puppies" installed by the previous owner and putting on my throttle rocker, it was better..


I forgot to mention I use a cramp buster as well and they do make a larger version to go over the grip puppies. I agree that this little device does a great job of letting you stretch out your fingers occasionally and just use the heel of your hand to hold the throttle open.


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Throttle locks are great if you live and ride on a pane of glass. If you live in an area where even slight elevations are present the throttle lock is good for a short period of time before needing readjustment. Go up an incline and you decel. Go down a hill and you speed up.

The only way to go is full blown cruise control and even now after using interactive cruise on a work vehicle regular cruise control is bothersome unless you are on the road alone.
 

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Love my GoCruise2, I use it all the time. Obviously it has its shortcomings in hilly areas, compared to a real cruise control, but even then it takes some of the strain out. Makes all the difference for me. I also have the Givi Airflow and handlebar risers/setback. Comfort is a personal thing but these changes turned the DL650 into an all-day Tourer for me. Combined with heated grips, handguards and heated vests I now ride happily in 40 degree weather and have been very comfortable on half hour rides at 30 degrees Fahrenheit.
 

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I'm gonna jump on the Rostra bandwagon. If I had kept my Wee that's what I would have done. Assuming that you're happy with the rest of the bike don't be too quick to give up because of the fatigue.

I bought a 2009 FJR while I still had my Wee. The 09 fjr's didn't have cruise. With the heavy throttle of the FJR I couldn't go 15 miles without being miserable. The crampbuster helped but not enough. The Rostra was a lot of work but I'll never own another long distance highway bike that doesn't have cruise. I'm fairly certain I've got a bit of carpal tunnel but it's not a problem anymore. Set the cruise and enjoy the ride.

Second to resolving the numbness in my hand, the ride is much more relaxed as I'm not constantly looking at my speedometer to make sure I'm not speeding. I can enjoy the ride much more.

Back to the Wee. I had a throttle lock on it but there is no comparison. It would allow a few seconds to shake my hands out but that's it. If I get another Strom it's gonna get cruise.
 

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Cruise control is what has made me keep my bike period .

Not cheap for the McCruise system but it is so reliable , easy to install and easy to set .

Makes long & short journeys a pleasure without the need to look at the speedo when there's a blitz on .

My next bike will either have cruise or it can be retrofitted later .

I just love the McCruise system definitely made my biking easier .
 

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It's going to be VERY expensive going through bikes until you find one that fits perfectly. New bars, grips etc are remarkably cheap in comparison.

I budget for new bars/riser whatever on every bike I buy because they seldom just work. Last that did was the TS-185 about 40 years ago :).
 
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