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To keep things short and simple, I have full perforated zip together leathers from Fieldshier. Fits, works great, but cmon... ventilated leather is still HHHHHOT! :devil_34:

So I just picked up a spankin' new yellow 'Strom, and would like some matching Summer gear!

Just doing some research, I've come across Icon's lineup, and liked some of their offerings, and would like your collective input:
*Note that MAXIMUM COOLING takes priority, styling/safety second, price third. Yellow and black bike BTW, so I'd like it to match.
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Helmet:
I'm too damn pretty to risk anything but a fullface. :p

Icon Airframe. Any others that emphasize cooling (wind noise secondary concern), and have a lot of yellow in them? I do like the flip-down sunshields that some have now.

Jacket:
Icon TiMax 2 Mesh Jacket:

I don't know about the titanium nonsense, but I hear its very cool, and I like the styling and back protection.

Gloves:
Just picked the matching set. Thinking medium-weight w/ full ventilation. Not sure if gauntlets add much safety over shorties. Black or Yellow.


Pants:
Pair of Icon Strongarm and Super Duty Jeans (w/ wearable armor on occasion)


Boots:
Icon Super Duty 3


Open to other suggestions, but please be specific (so rather than "ZOMG Icon suxorz", explain why, heh). Thanks!
 

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Get your self a nice Hi-viz motorport suit. The best protection of any mesh gear. Pricey but worth it every penny.

Here is the post of my Brother in law crash with his 5 day old Motorport 2 piece suit. I have seen the suit and there is no visible damage at all anywhere. He was going 45-50mph

http://my2wheels.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1335

There is also several posts in Advrider discussing mesh gear and good pictures of a motorport crashed at 50mph with no damage to the suit.

I wear a Roadcrafter or a Spidi Admiral, and as long as I am moving I have no issue even in Vegas 115F weather. I have never been in south Texas, LA, FL style heat though.
 

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I must be getting old....

...but that gear seems a little tacky (please don't be offended). In my opinion I would think beyond the current bike and NOT match the gear to your ride. Good gear will last a very long time, likely longer than you will have the same bike...maybe not. I would also get boots without laces and make sure they are waterproof...you will appreciate that...
 

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No, no, thats why I'm asking, but throw up some suggestions then. :)

I have laceless boots already, but they look like... well, like motorcycle boots! Looking for something that could pass as casual shoes. Goal is to have something with excellent cooling thats a little stylish and to where the helmet and jacket can come off and it looks like I'm in regular clothes, more or less.

Edit: And my sister agrees... she wouldn't stop laughing at me for about 30 seconds when she saw the helmet, and asked if I had come out to our parents yet when I showed her the "ghey boots". Apparently, according to my fashion consultants, black boots and a solid helmet style only is permitted. This any good:
 

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Thats cool

take a look a the shoei TZ-R. awesome helmet and I think they have some with graphics that you would like....the reinforced/padded denim is better that regular jeans and there are some good looking lower boots those just weren't them...
 

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Checking em out now. I also came across this jacket, which appears to be new for 2008:

Cortech GX Air Series 2

Can't find the matching gloves, but these were made to match the style of the 2006 Air:

Never owned mesh anything, let alone gloves, but I assume they protect alright. Sure do look nice and breezy.
 

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I have the GX Air. Its a pretty good jacket (it flows air really well) and I like the leather on the elbows, shoulders, and back. The one thing I don't like is that you can't draw the wrist closer tight with the velcro. I think that the velcro is only there to keep the sipper from coming unzipped. Other than that I really like the jacket. I have the blue one (to match my bike of course:cool:)
 

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One last helmet related question...

Sparx Special-Ed Yellow (shortbus) Hornet:
http://www.helmetharbor.com/Products/ProductDetails.cfm/Search/Results/ProductID/475711


They seem to really like it, and I like that its so damn light. They gave it a high rating for venting (well, for a cheapo).

The only concern I have is:
1) Its sooo damn cheap... it meets the European rating, so I assume its still safe.
2) They have a free replacement policy if you crash... is this because they know you won't survive? ;)

Also, I still have to try them on, but if the black super duties don't do the trick, thinking I might try these... w/ jeans hopefully looks decent. Reviewers thought they were comfortable.
 

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Be very careful wearing "mesh" gear in extreme heat. It will allow more airflow but that does not equate to "cooling effectiveness".

The increased airflow will evaporate sweat before it has a chance to do its job: cooling your body. Mesh gear is good for moderate heat but for exteme heat you will be better served with a good vented jacket.

Look into the Oympia AST (All Season Touring) I wore mine to the R.O.T. rally last summer and yes its hot when you're sitting still or in slow traffic but when you get moving you stay cooler longer than mesh allows. It also comes in yellow.

 

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The increased airflow will evaporate sweat before it has a chance to do its job: cooling your body.
I'm going to have to argue with this a bit. When sweat evaporates, it cools your body. It doesn't matter "how" it evaporates. The very act of evaporation is what cools your body.
It's how air conditioners cool your house, they pull water out of the air.

A fully mesh jacket will work fine to cool you, even in extreme heat. If not wearing a jacket in extreme heat was dangerous, the beaches would be filled with dead sunbathers in nothing but bathing suits.

Of course, some temperature/humidity combinations are just too much for any gear, if it's up over 120 degrees F you probably should just sit back in some AC and enjoy an iced beverage.
 

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Yes. Mesh gear when hot is the way to go. I wear wicking long underwear for a good temp range. When very hot, I'll wet down the outfit whenever it dries out.
 

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I have Olympia gear I bought from the dealer with the bike, and I like it but can't compare it to anything--it's the only gear I've owned. I've worn it for my 18,000 or so total biking miles and the jacket and pants have held up to all weather and a range of temps from 28-108F. A zip-in liner and zippered vents make it a very versatile jacket.

The summer gloves are a disappointment, Olympia gel palms--they wore through on the thumb from the turn signal I guess. I'm in the market for a new pair.

I have an adverse reaction to most motorcycle boots. They either scream "gay pride parade" or "power ranger" to me (not that there's anything wrong with dressing like a power ranger and joining a gay pride parade, it's just not my bag baby). I went with Redwing 980s, simple workboot looking boots that have served me well these first two years.

I don't think I'll get mesh any time soon:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334909
 

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Why mesh gear doesn't work in extreme conditions

I live in Colorado now but I'm from the desert (Sierra Vista, AZ). And although it's not as hot here, altitude can complicate heat exhaustion and create extreme conditions.

I didn't write the article in the link but I don't disagree with any of it.

If this is a double post I apologize. The I.T. Nazis have the ADV site blocked so I can't see it from work.

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As for boots:

I much prefer one all season boot as opposed to one for cold, one for hot, one for wet, etc. etc.

I did a lot of research and tried on dozens of boots before buying my Harley Davidson FXRG boots. Dont' snicker. These boots are made for Harley by Woverine and they are the best.



I have worn them in temps from 34 to 103 in rain and shine. They are water-proof but breathable. They are comfortable for walking and standing as well as riding.
 

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Great info. Yeah, I have coolmax stuff already, it really works to keep you feeling dry. I think I actually like those Wolverines best. :)

That link makes sense. Once the air is above body temperature, its more of a hairdryer effect. On those days or when it rains, I'll take the waterproof Vette with its air conditioning, heh.

More typical are temps in the 80s, its just that its that temperature almost all the damn time here, heh, and it sucks arriving somewhere and being all sticky. Thanks!
 

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Checking em out now. I also came across this jacket, which appears to be new for 2008:

Cortech GX Air Series 2

Can't find the matching gloves, but these were made to match the style of the 2006 Air:

Never owned mesh anything, let alone gloves, but I assume they protect alright. Sure do look nice and breezy.
I just got the Cortech GX Sport Series 2 (not the Air one) to go with my Cortech collection. :p I haven't had a chance to try it out yet, hoping this weekend. I have the Cortech GX Sport and Cortech GX Air (previous versions) and the Air works very well for me in warm/hot weather and it's not too bad with the waterproof liner in the cooler weather. My only complaint is if they fit with insulated liner they don't fit well without and vice versa. Don't think there's a real solution but for I just buy more jackets. :p

Also have the Cortech GX mesh gloves and they are good in hot weather too but the gauntlet is a little short for me.
 

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Is that because you wear them inside or outside on the gauntlets? Most are meant for outside, but I like tucking them in, so thats probably fine for me.

I wonder if I should just get the "old" air, which is on clearance. Anyone know exactly whats so "new and improved" on the new one other than styling?
 

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Is that because you wear them inside or outside on the gauntlets? Most are meant for outside, but I like tucking them in, so thats probably fine for me.

I wonder if I should just get the "old" air, which is on clearance. Anyone know exactly whats so "new and improved" on the new one other than styling?
I like my gauntlets on the outside over the jacket cuff. The GX mesh have a soft gauntlet so you might be able to tuck in into the jacket sleeve. My GX Air is snug and the cuff when zippered closed would be too tight for me.

I'm not sure of the differences between the old and new GX Airs, the new GX Sport doesn't have a zipper on the cuff (though Tourmaster/Cortech says it does), just the velco strap and couple of chest vents/pockets.
 
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