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I was working on my reaction and acceleration time today, and i think i hurt the tranny. It feels like the clutch is half in all the time now...i've checked the clutch cable and its fine, and i changed the oil (to make sure there wasnt anything in it, indicating a serious problem) and it was clean...although a bit dark looking for only having 1500 miles on this oil change.
i'm gonna talk with the dealer tuesday (they arent open monday)...its still under warranty, so there shouldnt be any trouble there...i'm thinkin it may be related to 2nd gear slipping.

any thoughts on what the problem might be? i've got a day to fix it myself, heh.

i'm also gonna ask if i can get a loaner bike while they fix it...doubt they'll go for it, but theres no harm in asking.
 

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Is it a 650? The 1000 have a hydraulic clutch.

The oil will darken almost immediately, don't worry about it.

When you say "half in" do you mean it's slipping? Engine revs but bike doesn't move?

You might have glazed the clutch plates. With a piece of plate glass and sandpaper you can deglaze the plates.
 
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its a 650...
and thats exactly whats going on...i rev and not much happens...theres still some power goin to the wheel...just not much...
i'm gonna drop it off thursday...but i have to ride it there :-(
i'm gonna ride there in the middle of the night with someone following me.
 

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You didn't change your oil with one of the low friction oils did you?

[understatement]Teflon in the clutch doesn't do it too much good.[/understatement]
 

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If you were trying a series of drag strip type starts and shifts to test your reaction time it is possible to burn up a clutch in as little as half a dozen starts. On a previous owned GS-1000, mildly tuned drag bike, I would get about 5 passes on a stock clutch pack.
 
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MATTMAN said:
You didn't change your oil with one of the low friction oils did you?
no, i dont think so...i used high performance 10w40...didnt say anything on it about teflon.

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If you were trying a series of drag strip type starts and shifts to test your reaction time it is possible to burn up a clutch in as little as half a dozen starts.
yeah, i think thats what i did...and apparently, warranty wont cover it cus its a wearable part...grrr, o well...from now on i'm treatin the strom as a tourer sans the sport, and i'm savin up towards a litre bike.
 
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hurray!
the problem was a stripped out lock nut on the clutch cable, hence why the clutch wouldnt engage. which the warranty will cover
and even if the clutch is burned out, suzuki should replace that 'cus its not my fault the nut stripped out.
 
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Well, the dealer's service dept has had my 8 days now. They didnt get the transmission housing in till yesterday (wednesday) afternoon. The service manager said he'd try to get it on the lift wednesday before they closed, or if they didnt have time today. well, i went down there about 4pm today expecting to get my bike. they still havnt started on it. i talked with the guy thats supposed to work on my bike, he was working on an ATV. said its been in there for over a month, and had priority...apparently the owner really screwed something up.
I dont know why one of the other techs wasnt working on the strom, i'm assuming they weren't too busy considering they were standing around outside.
So i talked with the dealership owner (he's been really helpfull since before i bought the bike) and he said they should be able to get it done tomorrow, i'm hopping this means he's going to either get one of the other techs to do it, or ask that one guy to take the 30 minutes out from the ATV to pop off the old housing and bolt the new one down.
If its not done tomorrow, i'm a) not going to be happy, and b) have a talk with owner about why the heck its taking so long; and if that doesnt go well c) have a talk with the Better Business Bureau
 
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wow, they just continue to amaze me!
they finally got to my bike today, they put the tranny housing on (but didnt check the clutch plates)
so the service tech took it for a ride, and it gave out on him.
so he pulled the housing back off, and sure enough, the clutch was toast.
and of course they dont have any clutch plates in stock...which means another week untill that comes in, so i'm hoping i'll get it back before next weekend.
 
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i've learned that if you call the dealership atleast once a day, something gets done...
so far they've gotten all but one friction plate in...for some reason OEM plates dont come in clutch packs, they're "sold seperatly"
the first 4 came in tuesday, another batch today, so hopefully the last one will show up tomorrow and i'll have my baby back for the weekend <crosses fingers>
 

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Well you have more patience than I'd ever be able to muster up. I would have already completely lost it in the stealership by the 2nd round. I can't comment on the specific mechanical problem but just wanted to say hang in there until you get your bike back. These dang stealer stories make me sick. :evil:

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hey, I used to work in a car dealership and I have heard every story about why your vehicle is not done, (I may have even made up one or two) But this sound like you are being taken for a ride, but wait that can't be true because they have had your bike for too long; all the while doing to little!(sorry, thought a little humor might help.) Be patient sometimes it is legitemate and you'll know if they're feedin ya. If you feel wrong about it after this escipade get them were it really hurts, find another dealer and spend your money there. Trust me, that will get there attention!! General Tommy Franks once said "At the end of the day people are more interested in the job being done than in all the excuses about why it is not."
 
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thanks for the support y'all.
i called down there friday afternoon, and they were just getting it on the lift around 1500. so i called back at 1745 (15mins before they close) to see if i could pick it up, of course not, they had it done, but they couldnt test ride it because it was dark! WTF?
well, i got it back saturday morning, i had to wait there while the guy went on a test ride though. and he kept making up excuses and lying flat out...like saying 15 minutes after they got the last plate in he put it on the lift, yea right! maybe a day and 15minutes.
anyway, now that thats all done, its running smoothly now, and i'm not going back to them for anything, i'm thinking of sending a letter to the newspaper for the "sound off" section, but not sure if i'll get around to that. i have already found another dealer up on gainseville (where i'll be moving in a month) so i wont have to deal with these jerk-offs again.
 

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So how long were you bikeless, from what I see it was from 28th OCT to around the 18th of NOV. thats perthetic, I'm glad my dealer is more careing, even if the parts are going to take a while to arrive they give you a curtusy bike to keep you rolling ,got to try out a 660 Tenere for a week while they waited on part's for my GS 500, now that's a decent dealer, also there prices are the best I've found around locally [ they are good but that doesnt mean I stop shopping around to make sure their still being good to me , so far they havent been beaten ] Best of all they dont tell lies, your welcome to go down to the workshop and check out progress on your bike, thums up to them :p
 
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Aussie Stromer 1039 said:
So how long were you bikeless, from what I see it was from 28th OCT to around the 18th of NOV. thats perthetic, I'm glad my dealer is more careing, even if the parts are going to take a while to arrive they give you a curtusy bike to keep you rolling ,got to try out a 660 Tenere for a week while they waited on part's for my GS 500, now that's a decent dealer, also there prices are the best I've found around locally [ they are good but that doesnt mean I stop shopping around to make sure their still being good to me , so far they havent been beaten ] Best of all they dont tell lies, your welcome to go down to the workshop and check out progress on your bike, thums up to them :p
yeah. i asked for a loaner bike...they pretty much just laughed at me.
 
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One time I took my bike to the dealer I bought it from for new tires... (a BMW dealer) It took me a month to get it back.... One BS story after another.

Over a month to mount tires!

I had fairly good service from the local Suzuki dealer so far.

Clutch plates and wet clutches... Yep, real easy to burn up a wet clutch. Lern't that a long time ago.

Also... it's good to know how to replace them yourself. Been a long time since I had a wet clutch and since I did my own repairs.... but am thinking maybe I should learn how to on the Strom.

Also thinking of getting a bead breaker, some LONG spoons, and rim protectors. $75-$100 a wheel and over 2 days for tires is BS.

Once tire shops realize the $ they can make on bike tires, the dealers may be more apt to be honest in the shop time and do a tire change while you wait.

Even $50 a tire is pushing it.
 
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