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Decided to go ahead and fight the family and keep my bike.

I know I'm getting Gerbings gloves and jacket liner.

Can the Wee handle the pants too or is that asking too much of the battery?

I figure with a splitter I can run the jacket and pants off one controller and the gloves on another. Hands get colder than the rest of me does. I'll be getting the dual controller portable.
 

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With those rheostat controllers you dial up or down your usage, so they make using multiple items a bit easier to manage. I can run the gloves, jacket and socks all at the same time (but not on full heat) and still be well above 13V. I usually run gloves alone on higher heat and socks paired with my jacket because those just need to be on a little bit of heat. Not sure how adding the heated pants into the mix would affect it, but you could always disconnect one of your headlight bulbs to gain the extra 55w or whatever it is...
 

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If you use the calculator, remember your bike is fuel injected and has two headlights. The alternator output at 5000rpm on 2008 and later DL650s is 400W. You'll have about 125-150W free over stock condition. Gloves jacket and pants will draw 146W at full power and your feet will freeze. I'll tell you right now you need to consider your feet. I ride with heated gloves, jacket liner, grips and socks. It's best to keep the core and extremities warm. Heated seats and pants are for bikes with plenty of electrical output. Mount a voltmeter to the bike and don't run under 12.6-12.8V for long as that is a battery discharge state. An Eastern Beaver single headlight cut out switch has allowed me more power for heat when riding in daylight.
 

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Good boots. Heat or insulation are rider's choices. I find it preferable to wear heated socks instead of insulated boots and insulated pants instead of heated pants. Black Lab wears no heated gear. I have a voltmeter that works for me but there are many reports of it dying in the rain so I don't have any recommendations.
 

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Since you are looking at buying a heat controller and possibly a volt meter, maybe you should look at the Dispatch 1 unit.

I don't have one, yet. Personally, I would like to see the unit waterproof and screw connectors, but it is very appealing in its current state.
 

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I wasn't much for the looks of the voltmeter, so I bought this instead.



Curious how the resident experts think it stacks up..
 

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+1 on the Datel voltmeter. Have had it now for a few years and it's been through a lot. Very durable and very visible.
 

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Interesting run up of power available. With the Oxfords cooking and the heated gloves perking along with the Gerbing jacket, power for the bike would be marginal.
The switched headlight feature would help a lot for power sharing.
I view the voltage readout on a Garmin III plus. When it read low I powered down the jacket and grips, etc until the battery voltage went back up. The voltage out put from the bike seemed to hang up and when the load was removed it reset itself. The voltage on the Wee seems to run a bit high too. 14+ volts occasionally.
 

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My experience with Garmin voltage readouts is limited to a Zumo 550 but it is wildly inaccurate. The electrical system does fine up to about 14.8V. 12.6-12.8V is subsistence level. More charges the battery and less discharges it.
 

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Thanks, all. I went with the Signal Dynamics one. See if that serves well enough.
 

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Zumo 550
The old Garmin has an actual battery voltage read out. My BMW Navigator I only show 'external power'. It's also my actual speed indicator!
 

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My wife and I both wear heated jackets on the Wee with out issue. Heck, we got over five years on the original battery and replaced it just to be cautious, it was still working. I do have an SAE plug on the bike and it gets a battery tender on it from time to time (every week or so) if the bike is idle.

We don't ride when its 30 degrees out, 45 is probably our bottom end. The jackets are not set on HI so they only cycle off on and run very little actually. We will wear a light polar fleece or something over the heated jacket and a thin long sleeve thermo t-shirt under it. This way we are dressed light but we don't need to crank up the electrics too much for heat. This is comfortable and efficient set up and seems to work out great. I have been doing this for years and never had a battery issue.

Layering your clothing sensibly and you can be very comfortable without a lot of bulk and without draining your battery.

OH, and I have some very nice long socks from BMW and insulated pants so feet and legs do fine.
 

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The Zumo 550 has an external power read out. It just does not work well.
 

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...It's best to keep the core and extremities warm.
Lol, yeah? What's left after the core and extremities? :mrgreen:

I have the First Gear 90w jacket, pants and gloves. I'm not too happy with them-- the jacket gets warm, but only across the belly and chest--not so much on the back or arms. The pants will fry my hips, but the rest does not feel warm at all. Maybe it's because my hips are being roasted...I can turn it down, but I have the single controller so it decreases the jacket too.

Anyone want to share the other manufacturors' performance? I may try a different brand.
 

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I have Gerbings Jacket linner (gets very hot on high), oxford grips, plus Garmin GPS w/XM radio, Escort Radar Detector and when riding with some friends a CB radio all conncted. I also have Eastern Beaver Headlight cut-out for when I am going slowely with all electronics running on high. The Escort has a very accurrate digital voltage readout the Garmin seems to take an average over a 3 to 5 second interval so close but not spot on like the Escort. Before I got the headlight cut out, when I was starting out and the temp was below 35, I would set the jacket linner and grips on high and if the RPMS dropped I would also lose volage below 12.4. Once I got the cut-out no more problem, with everything running on high and at idle very seldom below 12.8 .
 

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Lol, yeah? What's left after the core and extremities?
Arms, legs, butt and head. I'm talking hands and feet as extremities.
 
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