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I'm at that point on my 2012. A lot of this is stuff I don't know how to do, and don't have tools for. In addition, the stock trailwings are shot and I need new tires. The chain is also starting to go, so I may need chain + sprockets.

Altogether, with Pilot Road III tires, the dealer quoted me approx $1100. That doesn't include the chain + sprockets, which is apparently $129. It's about a 5 hour procedure for the whole service. Labor is $94/hr. I knew this would be big one, but this is still more than I anticipated. Is this typical stealership price or is it too much?
 

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Wouldn't total cost depend on whether your valves are out of spec. If all are in range they button it back up and you pay basic inspection. The price goes up if they have to lift the cams. Would be nice to have an itemized estimate. What else are they doing. Plugs? Oil? Coolant? Brake fluid?
 

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I have an itemized list, but of course not with me (I'm at work). It covered all the checks the manual calls for at this mileage, minus the oil change, because I do that myself.
 

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I'm at that point on my 2012. A lot of this is stuff I don't know how to do, and don't have tools for. In addition, the stock trailwings are shot and I need new tires. The chain is also starting to go, so I may need chain + sprockets.

Altogether, with Pilot Road III tires, the dealer quoted me approx $1100. That doesn't include the chain + sprockets, which is apparently $129. It's about a 5 hour procedure for the whole service. Labor is $94/hr. I knew this would be big one, but this is still more than I anticipated. Is this typical stealership price or is it too much?

Service manual is about $50.

Modest tool set $100

My opinion... motorcycle ownership includes doing you own maintenance. Not major repairs perhaps but checking valves, replacing chain and sprockets, tire changes, etc. is normal maintenance.

Lots of resources online, helpful people here. If you know which way to turn a wrench you can work on your bike. You will have the satisfaction of doing it yourself and knowing that the job was done right. :hurray:
 

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Agreed. And I've been slowly working towards it. But it's hard to find the time, and I'm just not ready to tackle a lot of the major stuff. Until then, I have to pay the man.
 

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Service manual is about $50.

Modest tool set $100

My opinion... motorcycle ownership includes doing you own maintenance. Not major repairs perhaps but checking valves, replacing chain and sprockets, tire changes, etc. is normal maintenance.

Lots of resources online, helpful people here. If you know which way to turn a wrench you can work on your bike. You will have the satisfaction of doing it yourself and knowing that the job was done right. :hurray:
I've always wrenched my own bikes. Have to say adjusting valves on an Oilhead RT with the heads sticking out on both sides of the bike is a little easier than my current ride.

But I'm old and unemployable so my time is not worth anything and I might as well learn all about buckets and shims.

Heck, I haven't had a chain to oil since the early 70's.:green_lol:
 

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Working on my CX500 is easy. The engine is a v twin set side ways like a Motto Guzzi. You can change the head gaskets with the engine in the bike. Prefer to do my own wrenching but haven't worked on a bucket and shim top end before. I do like that I only have to check them every 24,000 km.
 

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I was quoted £200 to £300 for the valve check depending on how much shimming he has to do , also take off the plastics yourself should save a few quid .
 

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The problem with dealers is the fact that many don't really do the work. So, I would suggest you drop in while your bike is being serviced to see if they really tear into it. I've seen guys go to dealers for valve checks that were never done. You can easily look at the access plugs an tell if they have been removed. I like to set valves on the loose end the first time and then lengthen the future check intervals, most dealers will just button things up as long as the valves are on the tight end. I can't stand that method, if your going to pull the valve covers the hard part is done, it makes sense to set the shims to the loose end of spec and then your covered for a long time usually.

Some of us are not the mechanical type, thats fine. Just find a mechanic you can rely on and stick with them. Look at the independent shops, the mechanics, a step above the usual dealer tech. There are motorcycle mechanics out there, dealers are not the only choice.

Around here a valve adjustment is going to be at least $600. I've done my last two though myself on two different bikes, I've gotten over the learning curve finally. I change my own tires too, mainly because I've been burned by dealers too much. I was one of those guys who paid $60 or more for an oil change, but those days are long gone now.
 

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The problem with dealers is the fact that many don't really do the work. So, I would suggest you drop in while your bike is being serviced to see if they really tear into it. I've seen guys go to dealers for valve checks that were never done. You can easily look at the access plugs an tell if they have been removed. I like to set valves on the loose end the first time and then lengthen the future check intervals, most dealers will just button things up as long as the valves are on the tight end. I can't stand that method, if your going to pull the valve covers the hard part is done, it makes sense to set the shims to the loose end of spec and then your covered for a long time usually.

Some of us are not the mechanical type, thats fine. Just find a mechanic you can rely on and stick with them. Look at the independent shops, the mechanics, a step above the usual dealer tech. There are motorcycle mechanics out there, dealers are not the only choice.
Thank you for the helpful response! Your advice is clever, and I'll look into that. The dealer I go to is (seems?) pretty reliable. I've used them before for stuff with no issues. They seem to be good guys all around...

Fyi, most of the technical stuff in that first paragraph I have no idea what it means. That should give you an idea of my technical expertise, and why I'm paying someone else to do it.
 

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Are you sure your chain and sprockets are worn out at 14,500?
They are not fully worn out, but there's definitely some wear. To my novice eye, the sprockets look and feel fine. The chain is showing some reddish rust or whatever causes that reddish color to appear. I ride in foul weather a lot. I can slightly pull it away from the rear sprocket, but not past a tooth. I can expose perhaps 1/4 of the tooth. I've had to retension it 3 times now due to chain slap, but I still have about 3 notches of play left on the indicator things.
 

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The red dust is bad......time to replace and likely in the future you need to lube more or with better stuff.
 

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Chain and sprocket wear.

Have a good look at those sprockets. I just inspected mine yesterday with 20,000 Km and they are fine. Chain is in decent shape as well.:hurray:
 
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