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Keith Falkner.. you mentioned in another thread elsewhere that you wanted to ride to a salt water beach in Ontario.

I didn't think you could ride up to James Bay. Were you going to take your bike up on the train or is there a way to ride up there?

If you can't ride to James bay how far north can you ride?

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A few years ago I travelled across Northern Ontario and wanted to see James Bay. Bummer, no road, there is a train to Moosonee or Moose Factory though. Can't remember the departure location but it would probably be a town along Highway #11. The train did not travel daily and accommodation at the Northern end was a bit iffy so plan ahead. And of course I rarely plan ahead so I missed out.
A bit foggy in the memory access today but I am sure you can look up Moose Factory and get some info. Or Moosonee maybe.
 

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I've look at maps in the past, I think the farthest north you can ride in Ontario is Pickle Lake, that's NW of Thunder Bay.

You can get to James Bay on the Quebec side, check out http://jamesbayroad.com/ for all the details on that.

You can take the VIA north from Union Station on the CN Newmarket Sub to North Bay. You'd then travel on ONR track upto Cochrane. I think it's the last place the train stops that you can drive to before leaving for Moosenee.
 

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I've look at maps in the past, I think the farthest north you can ride in Ontario is Pickle Lake, that's NW of Thunder Bay.

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You can actually ride a couple hours north of Pickle Lake if you want to, but I don't know why you would. All there is north of Pickle, besides a lot of bush and mosquitos and black flies big enough to carry your bike away, are a couple of old DC 3 hulks at an old airstrip known as Wiebenville, long since abandoned.

I lived in Pickle Lake for a short while. We used to blast around on dirt bikes. If you were unfortunate enough to bury your bike in one of the muskeg patches scattered through the bush you were in for a real treat. As soon as you stopped moving the black flies were on you thick as smoke, helmet on or off. They were absolutely relentless. Big incentive not to get bogged down.
 

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The maps say Ray is correct, and here's the gen.

http://jamesbayroad.com/travel/motorcycle.html

Well, I don't see any way for a V-Strom to reach Ontario's salt water without hitching a ride. I read the account of a biker who enjoyed much of his ride to James Bay through Quebec.

In his book Aurora to Ariel, author Bill Snelling recounts the life of Manx biker J. W. Graham Oates. Oates became the first person to cross Canada on a rubber tyred motor vehicle. He rode from Atlantic to Pacific in the summer of 1928. Yes, 1928, long before there were highways or indeed roads of any kind from coast to coast. Oates rode along railway tracks, and seldom used third gear or top. I think anyone who tried to ride a bike from Fraserdale to Moosonee along the tracks would be mad, and would probably not make it.

I am nowhere near mad enough to tackle anything remotely like that.

My quandary just now concerns Newfoundland and Labrador. While I am visiting Newfoundland in early July, I will decide whether to ride the 800 kilometers of gravel that link Goose Bay to Baie Comeau.

So James Bay can wait. A final note: the map of the northeast corner of James Bay depicts the westernmost part of Québec. Did you know that part of Québec is actually west of Oakville Ontario?

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Hi Keith,

What started this thread was a comment you made elsewhere about riding to Ontario's salt water beaches. I hoped you knew of a secret way to get there by bike!

Still, Ontario really is a BIG place! I can be in Florida in less time than it takes to drive/ride from the Toronto area to Thunder Bay.. and there is still lots of Ontario left to go!

..Tom


http://jamesbayroad.com/travel/motorcycle.html

Well, I don't see any way for a V-Strom to reach Ontario's salt water without hitching a ride. I read the account of a biker who enjoyed much of his ride to James Bay through Quebec.
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Hello all .

I lived north of timmins in the late 90s . as small town called Smooth rock falls . there a back road thats paved . that go's to a hydo dame ( the train to moosonee pases buy there ), thats only 60 km north of Hwy 11 . there still 240km to go befor moosonee.
i was there. ok of a ride . not much to see .
thay tell me that there was a old road that was used back in the day , to go to moosonee. i never did find it .
thay were going to build a road all the way up there back in the late 60s . there was a Army base ( Norad ) that plan was scraped .( coldwar ended to soon )
but if you did make it all the way there , there's not much to see . it all bush . a big bay , a small town .
 

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Ontario - a place to stand?

What a rotten song that was! No, by damn, the Province of Opportunity is NOT a place to stand! It's a place to grow, explore, thrive, develop, enrich, share, and lots more active verbs, but not stand, for goodness' sake.

In two weeks, I will be putting my newest (Wee-Strom) and oldest (tell ya later) bikes onto the trailer and pulling them to the GTA.

I am positively itching for a donut, a 50, a glimpse of the Niagara River and NY state beyond it, a visit to Active Surplus, a lamb shawarma, black flies, Weber's burgers, a dip in Lake Rosseau, 8-ball at that bar in Huntsville, Highway 7, Lake Sturgeon, and the tapestry of sensations presented in 3-D, colour, sensurround, and full-feely smellivision alla time by Ontario!

Geez, I love those two lawyers on the billboards in Buffalo. The bald one looks just like me twenny years ago. Well, twenty-five, then.

Keith
 

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I really want to ride the James Bay Road (via Quebec) some day. The Wee would be a great bike for said trip. I would need a full week off work to do it from Pittsburgh though... And a French speaking riding partner too.
 

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I briefly daydreamed about such a trip but quickly put that idea aside. There are lots more interesting places to ride with much better tourism infrastructure.

The weather can be REALLY miserable up there and the thought of being stuck in the middle of nowhere with a mechanical breakdown (a low risk with either Strom, I know), in a drizzly rain, swatting away the cloud of blackfiles while praying for rescue is not my idea of adventure.

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James Bay

In order to ride to the James Bay in Ontario, I have heard on advrider that there is theoretically a way to do it. But you need some hardcore offroad experience, and probably not a Strom. Effectively you get to ride wooded trails and old rail beds but might have to cross some swamps etc.

Realistically not possible on a Strom.

However, getting to James Bay in Quebec is relatively easy.

I went up there the first week of September 2006. From Ottawa, I made it a 5 day round trip with a full day there to do the tour at the power dam and go to the Bay.

It is about 1500 KM from Ottawa to Radisson, Quebec, and I did 2 750KM days up, and a 1200 KM day and a 500KM day southbound since a took a longer route through Ontario.

I ride an 04 Wee-Strom, and brought along a 1 gallon gas can strapped to the back rack in order to ensure I had enough gas for the 381 KM stretch.

The speed limit up there is 90KM/h, but the road is built with nice sweeping curves so if you have the gas, you can open right up and fly. I generally maintained an indicated 130 - 140, and passed some vehicles, while getting passed by others when I stopped for pictures.

There are some really nice photo ops, although the best of them is due to be decreased this year I think at the Rupert River, when they divert the majority of the waterflow to the new power dam being built.

From Radisson it is about 100KM to Chisasibi which is one of the ways to access the James Bay.

There is really no problem it you don't speak french since most people there speak english as well.

Anyways, I don't think I ever did a ride report last year, so this is about as good a ride report as any.

There are quite a few other ride reports here as well as on advrider if you are interested in more information. Or ask questions here or PM me, and I'll do my best to get back to you.
 
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