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Any information gained will just be the posters opinion based on how THEY ride and may get you hurt. Buy a small REAL dirt bike and the proper riding equipment find a dirt field and practice then progress up to more difficult terrain. NEVER ride alone #1 Rule then practice, practice, practice and what ever else you do if you have a Vee or Wee DON'T ATTEMPT ANY kind of dirt riding. Neither is a good dirt bike especially for a beginner and will get you hurt as well as hurt your pocket.
Now just being smart as some of the others most likely will be, just get into a corner a little to fast and you will find out real quick how to go off road.
 

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If it's loose sandy soil, I drop the tire pressure to about 20psi and go slow. Hard pack, gravel I still go slow. Just turned 60, been riding 40 years, but not much off road until I bought the Wee.
 

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Any information gained will just be the posters opinion based on how THEY ride and may get you hurt. Buy a small REAL dirt bike and the proper riding equipment find a dirt field and practice then progress up to more difficult terrain. NEVER ride alone #1 Rule then practice, practice, practice and what ever else you do if you have a Vee or Wee DON'T ATTEMPT ANY kind of dirt riding. Neither is a good dirt bike especially for a beginner and will get you hurt as well as hurt your pocket.
Well-said!
 

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I started riding dirt bikes 32 years ago, spent 10+ years racing off road. I have time and again heard that the Strom is not worthy of the Dirt. BS!!! Is it high performance 200 lbs MXer??? NO... But it does well on dirt rodes and rough country if you have basic off road skills! It is heavy and has a high center of gravity that works against you. I take my Strom off road daily!!! I live in the country and go to my farm which is in rocky hill country. I jump my Strom. I stock form the suspension was too soft so I replaced my front and rear springs with heavier progressive springs from Wilbers USA and went to a heavier oil for better dampening. Now i have it set up for me and have had my black beast catch 5' verticle air without bottoming! I do not advise this unless you feel you have the experience and competance to attempt. I leave for Colorado in the morning and will be riding my Strom over some rough mountain 4X4 passes in 13000 feet range. I would not attempt this if I did not feel it was capable.
 

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But it does well on dirt rodes and rough country if you have basic off road skills!
This is true...

But the term 'off road' does not mean 'dirt roads', to me at least.

The DLs SUCK for real off road riding. You can take them down some fairly rugged dirt tracks if needed, but there's not much joy in that.

I have a knobby-shod, deep-geared, DRZ400 for my trail riding adventures. My DL650 can never even come close to that bike, off road.


Don't be fooled into thinking that the V-Stroms are true dualsport bikes. They are not. They are really great adventure bikes, which can take you down dirtroads with confidence, and get you through even more rugged stuff if absolutley needed, and if you have the skills.


When I see photos of guys riding DLs down rugged trails, it's like watching someone hammer in a nail with the handle end of a screwdriver, in my opinion.
 

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Any information gained will just be the posters opinion based on how THEY ride and may get you hurt. Buy a small REAL dirt bike and the proper riding equipment find a dirt field and practice then progress up to more difficult terrain. NEVER ride alone #1 Rule then practice, practice, practice and what ever else you do if you have a Vee or Wee DON'T ATTEMPT ANY kind of dirt riding. Neither is a good dirt bike especially for a beginner and will get you hurt as well as hurt your pocket.
Now just being smart as some of the others most likely will be, just get into a corner a little to fast and you will find out real quick how to go off road.

So true. There is no reason to go hurt yourself. Find a nice dirt road, hard packed and see how the strom acts and try air pressure changes, this may be the key to making you more comfortable. Just take your time.
 

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Five feet vertical air is hard to find on "dirt roads". Sounds like ghostrider is doing a lot more than "dirt roads".
Yep love to see a photo of that. And then ask WHY?!


I get lots of pleasure from catching air on my DRZ, but I can't imgaine why I'd want to do the same on my DL650...


 

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What drive tecnics do you use to go off-road?
Reduce air pressure in the tires, and go slow. Avoid deep sand, deep mud, slick wet grass, and extremely steep terrain. Avoid extremely narrow trails. Wear specialized protective clothing, *expect* to fall - you won't be dissapointed. Read a book on off road dirt bike techniques.
I agree with all other posts. It's best not to "start" riding offroad on a DL. A DL can be used offroad in the hands of an experienced dirt rider, once they fully adjust to it. It has severe limitations in the situations mentioned above.
 

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Trails/logging roads

Unlike some lucky individuals, I live in a suburb. There are no fun scenic off road trails within comfortable riding range of a true "Dual Sport". I also use the bike to commute to work. I only can have one bike.

The strom is very comfortable getting to the location you want to see, and surprisingly capable of letting you see it. Now I did bend a rim, I did bend the bracket for the Amotostuff skid plate, and I did suddenly turn 90 degrees when the rear tire slid into a rut and I gave it some gas to climb out, the bike had just a little bit to much power and spun me sidewise.

In doing so I got to see things no one on a Harley will ever see unless on foot.

Is it a real off road bike? NO, but it can handle haul roads.

Would I fly down a cow path on it like I did on my MX 125 as a Kid? NO, It hurt enough when I had the handle bars each hit a tree at the same time, and without a pressure washer it was hell getting the cooked on cow pies off.

Would I take it to a gravel pit and goof around? NO

Am I still pleased with it and intend to take it on many National Forest roads? YES
 

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Are we going to agree on something :mrgreen:

Any information gained will just be the posters opinion based on how THEY ride and may get you hurt. Buy a small REAL dirt bike and the proper riding equipment find a dirt field and practice then progress up to more difficult terrain. NEVER ride alone #1 Rule then practice, practice, practice and what ever else you do if you have a Vee or Wee DON'T ATTEMPT ANY kind of dirt riding. Neither is a good dirt bike especially for a beginner and will get you hurt as well as hurt your pocket.
Now just being smart as some of the others most likely will be, just get into a corner a little to fast and you will find out real quick how to go off road.
 

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Thus far my only off pavement with my Vee has been the mile of rutted gravel road to get to my parent's house. I have my fair share of off road experience, but I thought the Vee was a piece of cake on that road with the stock tires.
 

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I ride a lot of county dirt and gravel roads that are at least reasonably well maintained and the stock Trailwings work well for me. The tread pattern is designed to provide some additional grip and traction on unpaved/rough roads and still provide good paved road manners. Do a search on this site for tires and you will find more than you ever wanted to know.
 

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I will not lie...If dirt is all you ride, the DRZ is a nice bike, small for me but capable...oh and Continnetal makes some nice knobbies for the strom!
 

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I have ended up riding some fairly rugged off road trails on my DL650, but not because it's really enjoyable, or because I think it's a cool thing to do. Just because I needed to get from point A to point B, and there was some rugged terrain between the two points.

So yeah you CAN take the DLs off road, on real trails, and on rugged tracks, and even in stock trim. But there's nothing really cool or fun about it...






If you really want to have some fun off road, get yourself a second bike. Make it a single, make sure it weighs less than 300 pounds, put knobbies on it, and gear it deep.
 

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I took the V through Bradshaw trail on stock tires. The bike is very capable off-road if you know what you are doing. I have to admit that I never said "OH MY GOD!!" so many times when I hit the soft sand. But had I had TKC80 on for that ride soft sand would not have been an issue.

I put almost 200 miles of hard dirt that day, and I admit I did walk the bike through about 100 yard patch of really soft sand. I know Bradshaw very well, so I had no surprises, and never dropped the bike. I was sore for a week.

I agree that if this is your first bike, don't attempt to take it on hard dirt trails. It will do fine in fire roads as long as you take it slow and watch out for the soft stuff. If you hit the soft stuff get on the pegs and hug it tight with your knees, if should straighten out if it does not buck you off. :)
 

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I took the V through Bradshaw trail on stock tires. The bike is very capable off-road if you know what you are doing. I have to admit that I never said "OH MY GOD!!" so many times when I hit the soft sand. But had I had TKC80 on for that ride soft sand would not have been an issue.

I put almost 200 miles of hard dirt that day, and I admit I did walk the bike through about 100 yard patch of really soft sand. I know Bradshaw very well, so I had no surprises, and never dropped the bike. I was sore for a week.

I agree that if this is your first bike, don't attempt to take it on hard dirt trails. It will do fine in fire roads as long as you take it slow and watch out for the soft stuff. If you hit the soft stuff get on the pegs and hug it tight with your knees, if should straighten out if it does not buck you off. :)
I avoided Bradshaw because of the sand. Without agressive knobs, I wouldn't feel comfortable.
 
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