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Hi,
I am new to here, me and my wife just got 2 vstrom i got 1000 and she got the 650 abs 2017. My wife got the lower seat option and thick boots, she is still missing 1.8 inches to have both feet on the ground safely. It’s important especially since it’s our first bike for both of us.
How could we lower the bike another 1.8 inch without affecting the drivability of the bike. Suzuki don’t have part available and the dealer where we got them doesn’t know what to do about it.
Thank you very much for the help.
Sorry for my poor english, I am french canadian.
 

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Welcome. There are many previous posts on this subject here on the forum. Basically, one can lower the rear pretty easily by 1-1/8" (29mm) by buying the proper links, which are easy to swap out. The front end can be lowered about 22mm or 7/8", roughly. This will give you about an inch overall. Make sure the rear suspension pre-load is turned all the way to the softest position, which may help a bit too, to compress the bike when sitting on it. Some people have removed or cut the rubber bumpers underneath the seat, for another maybe 10mm lower seat height, but make sure there is still a little clearance to the battery if you try this.
If you want to go even lower, you may have to change the springs and shocks on the bike, no idea how feasible this is or whether it might not be easier buying a better fitting bike in this case.
 

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I did see other treads on the subject, but with the option i have seen the drivability seem to be affected a lot am I right?
 

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Get rear end lowering links from Adventure Tech (or Soupy's adjustable ones), then lower the front end to match. Just remember when you're raising your fork tubes in your triple tree, the bike lowers vertically about 90% of the distance that they're sticking up above the tree. In other words, if you raise the fork tubes to stick up 10mm above the tree, you've lowered the front around 9mm. It's geometry.

Also, if you lower the front slightly more than the rear, handling will be improved.
 

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I myself was tip-toeing this bike. The dealer drop the front and back suspension about 1" and now, I'm good. It's also my first bike. While it's good to have both feet on the ground, it's not a must (unless you feel you want it). I myself never had a bike with both feet on the ground even in my driving class. Only a ninja 650 2018 is low enough for both feet on the ground. In the end, it's really how you like it, but the lower you'll go, the more drivability it will affect.
 

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How tall is your wife and inseam size ? Some people are just too short for this bike regardless of
attempts to adjust height lower and still be able to handle well. there is a trade off for sure.

It could be you get the ride height just barely there and then the slow speed maneuvers suffer or cornering feels
sluggish ,even the kickstand will hold the bike more upright and you run the risk of a tip over if on even slightly
uneven ground favoring the right side of the bike.

I'm 6' 1" and my inseam is right at 32" and at 200 lbs I have to dial the rear shock all the way to the softest setting
to flat foot the stance when stopped.
 

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I'm 5'6 with 30" inseam (with boots) and I had to lower I think 1.5" front and back, which gave me 1" seat height gain. Now, I'm balling with both feet instead of tip toe. It's better then the honda g500 I used during my class from about .25". You can have an idea of fitting through cycle-ergo . com


Bear in mind though, the vstrom on this page stop at 2016, the 2017 model have 0.25" inch lower seat height (can adjust in the options).
 

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A 1/4" difference is negligible . Your only going to feel the difference in larger gains.
You can lower the tire pressure and get a 1/4" change in height.
Thick shoes only lend to very weird shifter positions that don't work for more than one
rider. I think If I had been the OP I would have looked much closer at this issue before
writing the check. Many dealers offer Test rides. That may have been an option overlooked here.
 

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I know the issue should of been fixed before the cheque was done, but the saleperson told us that there is no problem, she just had to get lower seat and thick boot. And if it was not enough that she could get a lowering kit no problem....but there is lowering kit for the 2017 and up from suzuki. I was almost wondering if we could cancel the transaction ( the had not been driving at all we took possession wih a trailer ). But cancelling the transaction would mean loosing an apportunity to have an incredible bike at an incredible price.
But for now lowering with the lowering link kit seem to be the only option. We live in the country and we have 5 km of gravel road everything we get out of the house, we are not planning to do dirt road other then that. How would lowering the bike will affect the drivability on gravel and pavement? What should she expect ?
Thank you very much it is appreciated.
 

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Again your putting her in a situation where the rider height (from seat to the ground) is questionable for safe riding
on ANY surface. Then throw in the loose gravel to the mix. These bikes overall are not real heavy but, if you get the
bike leaning too far to one side you can feel it's somewhat top heavy (more so with 5.3 gallons of gas on board).
So riding on loose gravel or sand means without strong footing a loss of balance or control is much more realistic.

Picture the fact if she was riding this bike even slowly on the gravel road and lost control and it fell over trapping her leg.

What ever you decide to do, Keep the safety of you and your wife as the highest priority. At the very least have her get some miles
behind the bars on solid asphalt to get the feel of this bike and how it works when lowered to your liking.
 
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I did see other treads on the subject, but with the option i have seen the drivability seem to be affected a lot am I right?
No, lowering the front and back simultaneously does not affect the handling in any significant way. The center of gravity is a little lower, which is a good thing, the ground clearance is still plenty.
 

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I know the issue should of been fixed before the cheque was done, but the saleperson told us that there is no problem, she just had to get lower seat and thick boot. And if it was not enough that she could get a lowering kit no problem....but there is lowering kit for the 2017 and up from suzuki. I was almost wondering if we could cancel the transaction ( the had not been driving at all we took possession wih a trailer ). But cancelling the transaction would mean loosing an apportunity to have an incredible bike at an incredible price.
But for now lowering with the lowering link kit seem to be the only option. We live in the country and we have 5 km of gravel road everything we get out of the house, we are not planning to do dirt road other then that. How would lowering the bike will affect the drivability on gravel and pavement? What should she expect ?
Thank you very much it is appreciated.
I am 5'6", bought the factory lower seat, a 1" stainless steel lowering link from Ravetech (ebay for $49), raised the front tubes by 22mm. It took a little bit of time getting used to the tall bike, but now I am comfortable on it including dirt and gravel roads. It's a great bike if you can make it fit.
 

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OP never said how tall his wife was. Short woman, tall bike, first bike. Hum.....
 

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I have been looking for the adventure tech an soupy’lowering kit but i could not find any for the 650. Any suggestion where to look?
My wife is 5,3 and has 28 of inseams.
 

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I have been looking for the adventure tech an soupy’lowering kit but i could not find any for the 650. Any suggestion where to look?
Yes. The internet. A simple search gets you there.

*HERE* are the Soupy's adjustable ones.

*HERE* are the Adventure Tech ones.

Edit: Found a better deal on Soupy's *HERE*, though I doubt adjustability is a big concern of yours. You probably want max lowering.
 

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You got to go for the low rider look if you want her to be able to ride this bike safely.
At 5'3" You got your work in front of you.
 

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With no bags theres no place to put a 12" piece of wood. unless you strap it to the rear rack. Stylish for sure.
 

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Going to work on getting lowering links installed. If the picture doesn’t come through I lifted rear of bike only using my stand that lifts it by the swing arm just under the rear axle. I’m just trying to get it straight up to work on it being I have no center stand. I’m pretty sure I still need to do the lifting Up under the rear seat by strapping it to a beam in my garage. But the question is by lifting the rear off the ground using the swing arm will it interfere with getting the links off and on ?
 

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beware of lowering too much, and softening the suspension too much. I ended up scraping a hole thru the underside of the tail, once a hole is there, dirt & slop (when it rains) will get into your underseat storage. You will also scrape hardware in corners easier, the lower you go
 
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