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I just sold my Kawi Z750S and have decided NOT to go back to a KLR650, which I owned from '02 to '16. I'm obviously looking at the DL1000 and the 650 but was wondering about hip comfort/strain.

My previous issue, knee pain, was mitigated after I got both knees replaced. Now my right hip is 'going'. I refuse to stop riding and will ride through pain, but the pain caused by my Z750 was just too much.

My knees were OK on the Z, but the gas tank on that bike really caused my knees to spread apart, which is what caused all of the pain in my right hip. I guess having my knees bent while my legs spread apart was what really triggered the pain.

To all of you who've owned the older models 650 and 1000, can you tell me which causes your knees to spread further or closer while on the bike ?

Thanks so much. I have my eye on a DL1000, but thought I read somewhere that the 650 has a narrower seat ?
 

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Hip pain was a bother for me too. The newer models, 2012 and later 650 or 2014 and later 1000 have narrower waists. Older 650s had narrower seats than 1000s but their seats could be swapped and aftermarket seats may help. An AdventureTech footpeg lowering kit gave me a few more years of riding. Shorter/Taller Riders - AdventureTech, LLC.
 

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I had a 650 seat on my 08 1000 while the stock pan for the 1000 was at Russel getting turned into one of their RDL saddles. So, I think the 650 and 1000 seats are virtually the same. When Russel put the "wings" on the saddle, it changed comfort in my legs and butt. If the tank is causing your knees to be apart too far and thus rolling your hips out, a custom seat like an RDL might provide the support for your upper legs and hips via the "wings". I'd encourage you to call and chat with the folks at Russel about it.
 

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I had a DL1000 seat on my DL 650 for a time, trying to get some relief. I found the DL1000 a tad taller and a tad wider but not much and a tad more comfortable. Final relief came with a Russell Day Long.

What Yarz1 said, give 'em a call.
 

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Hip pain was a bother for me too. The newer models, 2012 and later 650 or 2014 and later 1000 have narrower waists. Older 650s had narrower seats than 1000s but their seats could be swapped and aftermarket seats may help. An AdventureTech footpeg lowering kit gave me a few more years of riding. Shorter/Taller Riders - AdventureTech, LLC.

+1 on the adventuretech lowering kit...It does not lower it much and I really was stunned on how much better it felt on my knees.
 

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Your upright seating is a plus and that opens all sorts of seats. Your best seat is the RDL and they will fit it to you but $$$

It gives inincredible support to your entire pelvic structure

Risers, lowering kits are all available to "custom fit" the bike.

I don't like bikes that the gas tank spreads my legs. My ST1100 was a horror that way. The 650 is a big tank ...all I can do is suggest you try it,
 

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Thanks everyone for the comments. I checked cycle-ergo again and it looks like the 1000 had a more comfortable position compared to the 650.

Last Sunday I picked one up!

2005 DL1000 dark blue

23,500 miles
Scratch on on the left front fairing.
Otherwise in great condition.
 

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I had a ZR7S and loved it. stupidly got rid of it. In any case the Wee is a bit more comfy for the highway.
Your hip can be appeased by a different seat, lower pegs? I recently got some bar raisers, about an inch and it's even more comfy now.
 

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+1 on the adventuretech lowering kit...It does not lower it much and I really was stunned on how much better it felt on my knees.
+2 on Adventuretech lowering kit. Both of my knee's have been replaced with shiny expensive metal. The extra room is dreamy.
BEST add on for me and the bike had about everything on it.
 

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I have a 650 with AdventureTech peg lowering brackets and stock DL1000 seat. A very effective combination: not only does it reduce knee bend, but you get much more distributed support on your thighs with this riding position, less weight concentrated on your butt. Works great for me.
 

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I had an "Airhawk" seat pad as well as an alaska leather sheepskin pad from my old KLR650. I just installed the AirHawk pad and it did provide plenty of lift on my butt to help. Possibly will also look into getting bigger straps for the sheepskin - may come in handy here in Arizona so I can sit on the bike after it's been in the sun.

I really like the fact that the big V's seat doesn't slide you down into the gas tank like my old Z750S did. Also my legs don't have to spread that much.

I changed the oil, got a near rear tire on, and replaced the bent handlebar last week/end. I think as soon as I finish what's necessary, such as replacing the brake/coolant/clutch fluid, I'll get the footpeg lowerers. After that comes replacing the fork seals since the R side is leaking.
 
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