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Good day;

I have an '05 1000 and am looking into getting a higher output alternator to handle the heating requirements for two up riding. The vests, grips, etc., that I use draw too much juice (the PIAA lights are the biggest offender) and would like a high quality unit.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Jack
 

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Good day;

I have an '05 1000 and am looking into getting a higher output alternator to handle the heating requirements for two up riding. The vests, grips, etc., that I use draw too much juice (the PIAA lights are the biggest offender) and would like a high quality unit.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Jack
Getting a different bike is prolly your only option.
 

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The answer is that you pretty much have no options. Electrosport has a high failure rate for their higher output alternators. You can use less heated gear, ride when it aint so damn cold, or you may have to get a different bike.
 

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(the PIAA lights are the biggest offender)
Were I you, I would replace those with good quality LED lightheads (such as Whelen's public safety lights). That'll save you a bunch of electrons.

You can't do much about the supply side, but you can do better on the demand side.
 

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Although i do have 55w aux lights, I dont use them if I am running all my heated gear and grips, or 2 vests, heated gloves, etc.

I also have a EB low beam cut off (one headlight) to ensure I have adequite supply.

To answer your question though, there currently is no high output alternator available, other than the forementioned high failure unit.

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http://www.stromtrooper.com/showthread.php?t=43420&highlight=Solstice

Take a look down at the first 2 bike pictured. Thsoe are 1 led lights with
around 30-50 watt output of normal ligths. Found them for 12$ each.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11263


Not the nicest but if tucked under the fearings all you see is the extra
ligths. Only take 10watts power each so solves the power issue.

Here is a much nicer lookign style people ahve also used on bikes
http://www.visionxoffroad.com/led/s1100/

here is a thread on the pricey lights being installed
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=481009

I did find another set of the cheaper ones with diffrent specs ie a 3 watt and 1 watt version and diffrent spreads. Have to hunt that down
 

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I've been searching thru parts fiche looking at bikes with high outputs
BMW utilizes a belt driven 60amp (800watt) generator about $800
Goldwing has a 1300watt alternator $400

now if someone could come up with a kit to adapt to the V-strom, I kinda like the idea of a 100 amp alternator, that's bigger than most cars



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I had an Electrosport stator on my Wee for 2 years. Having the extra juice was really nice as I could all my stuff all the time without having to worry. However... after those 2 years, it fried the R/R, luckily enough, very close to home. The stock stator is back on & will stay on. A voltmeter is an absolute must!!! Aerostitch has an LED unit for about $42.
 

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I had an Electrosport stator on my Wee for 2 years. Having the extra juice was really nice as I could all my stuff all the time without having to worry. However... after those 2 years, it fried the R/R, luckily enough, very close to home. The stock stator is back on & will stay on. A voltmeter is an absolute must!!! Aerostitch has an LED unit for about $42.
You should look into getting a FET R/R. Much more efficient and barely get warm. A lot of people even see a steady 14V even at idle.

Read through this thread, lots of good info.
http://www.triumphrat.net/speed-triple-forum/104504-charging-system-diagnostics-rectifier-regulator-upgrade.html
 

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Thanks for the info!!!

I'm going to look into that R/R today.
 

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Not to dig up an old thread but are there still not any options for increasing the charging output of the Vee? I've done pretty much all the conservation methods I can such as EB headlight cutoff and LEDs where possible.

The pulsing of the lights on the Vee when running heated gear is driving me crazy. I may end up going with HIDs that are more tolerant of the voltage fluctuations but I still need more watts.

If I am alone I can probably get by with the stock output but once my wife is on the bike with her heated gear I pretty much have to freeze for her to have enough watts to run her gear at the temps she wants and that isn't at max either. This could be the issue that forces me to get rid of the Vee if I can't find an adequate solution.

Riding at night with one headlight cutoff definitely decreases my safety as well. It is really only an option in the daytime. Of course at night its colder so we need even more watts. What the heck was Suzuki thinking...
 

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you might want to check out the new Triump 800xc ,higher output all over ..
 

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I have been checking out the Triumph. I didn't realize the Vee's output was so weak. My new wife would kill me if did bailout after all the time and $$$ I've already sunk into the Vee. Most importantly she loves the seat and the bike in general. I already sold my Wing, GS and sportbike as we planned on just keeping the Vee since she liked the Vee so much.

How many women do you know that'd prefer to ride a Vee over a Goldwing? Not many and for me the Vee is more fun to ride in general. I may have to take a ride on the Triumph as it is one of the few bikes on my list I'd consider as a replacement for the Vee if something happened to it. Number 1 is the Ducati MS but I think I'd be reluctant to take it offroad at all but it does push all the right buttons for me assuming its maintenance costs aren't as high as my last Duc was.

If I could get about another 100 watts or so I'd be good with the Vee.
 

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If I could get about another 100 watts or so I'd be good with the Vee.
It's not gonna happen. There is only so much available, and only so much you can save. There are no reliable aftermarket stators (emphasis on "reliable") that I'm aware of.
 

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Does anybody rewind the stock one? I've read about the electrosport one being not reliable but what has been the issue with it? Could its reliability be improved with a better regulator/rectifier?
 

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Seems to me if you really want more juice you should get one of the above mentioned regulators and rewind the stator? Putting more output alternator on would just fry the regulator eventually. The easier option is to get two 35 watt headlights instead of the 55W and a few led tail and brake lights. Might be able to get the output to around 500w. You can run quite a bit of stuff with that and remember you don't need to use full power on the electrics all of the time so figure a little cushion at half power. I'd still get another regulator regardless though. I don't trust the stocker much at all if useing some draw.

These bikes don't have a alternator? Then what do you call the stator and magnets that spin inside produce alternating current???? :confused:
 

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I've already done the LEDs for tail and brake lights. I've thought about going with HIDs as they don't fluctuate with the voltage changes that the clothing heat controllers cause. Each pulse of the PWM controllers pull the voltage down almost 1 volt while running. This causes a very obvious pulsing in the brightness of the headlight(s).

With the HIDs it should pull a few less watts and not show that damned pulsing all the time. I think my best option is a better R/R and find someone who can rewind the stator if the reliability is so bad with the electrosport one. If I can't fairly easily find a way to resolve this the Vee becomes a 3 season bike for me and I'll probably end up selling it.

This is a pretty important thing. If my wife isn't warm when we ride, we don't ride.

On a side note, does anyone know if the other heat controllers such as the Gerbing have a faster rate instead of 1 Hz like the Warm n Safe controllers? That would help with some of the pulsing of the headlights.
 
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