I just installed the Symtecs ATV heat wraps (210007 RR from Powersport Superstore via Amazon) over my stock grips and under my grip puppys. I have small hands and was concerned that they would add too much thickness. But the size seems to be fine - it seems to have added very little thickness. The grip puppys came off easily using compressed air and a little soapy water.Suzuki's are overpriced and tend to have problems. Oxfords are good now that the controller has been upgraded but I'd run them off a fuse block rather than direct to the battery. I mentioned using a wrap around like Symtec for ATVs that has the same heat level on each side and putting Grip Puppies over them. My gloves have plastic sliders that tear up Grip Puppies now though. I think I would go with HotGrips and a Warm and Safe Heat Troller like my present bike.