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In need of some advice about Symtec grip heaters. Shortly I will be installing the Symtec units over the stock grips and then covering them with Grip puppies. My question is: where is the best position for the heaters ?? They do not go completely around the handgrip. Would I be better with the heating surface under the palm of my hand or under my fingers ?? I am thinking the fingers should be the priority. Am also installing OEM handguards at the same time.
Another though for the heater install. After sticking the heating elements on the stock grip I was thinking of wrapping them with electrical tape to keep them intact and in place while putting on the Puppies. Any pros or cons to this idea ?? Thanks in advance for your wisdom and experience folks.
 

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I'm not sure how electrical tape will react to that heat. If I leave mine on long enough I can feel the one on the left slipping a little because it gets hot in there, even on the low setting. I'm afraid tape might do the same thing. I did wrap my left side with a couple of layers of aluminumized duct tape (not the gray fabric kind but true aluminum tape) to make the diameter a bit larger and that might be reflecting the heat upwards.

My heaters were large enough that there was only a slight gap when I got them installed. I have bad circulation in one finger of my right hand so I tried to favor the fingers (hard to do when that grip turns). It didn't seem to matter much as they seem to warm up my entire hand.

They do work very well, and are about the best $25 I've spent on my bike.
 

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WW,

I read your post a few times and each time my brain told me you were planning to put the heaters on top of the existing grips? Is this right? If so, why?

If you put the heaters on the bars then they wrap right around with a small gap on the back side only. Then put your grips on top of that. The heat comes though the grips.

I have a set of Renthal aluminum bars, so I used a piece of thick walled heat shrink tubing to act as an insulator on the clutch side. On the throttle side, I just stuck the element on.

I used a heat gun to activate the glue and a rubber band to hold the element in place until I could get the grip back on.

I used a compressor with an air gun to "float" the grips off and back on again. Works amazingly well.
 

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so I used a piece of thick walled heat shrink tubing to act as an insulator on the clutch side. On the throttle side, I just stuck the element on.
I did the same thing - one of the guys on here, Paul (V-lust) emailed me when he saw we were having a tech day in January. He recommended 1" heat shrink tubing for 3/4" bars. I got some baby blue stuff at Fry's and used it on my bike and later a KLR - works fine and seems to insulate the bar well.

We put 5 sets of Symtec grips on that day (I did mine later) - 3 the regular way (under the grips) & two on top for grip puppies. I did mine under the grips & they work well.

Hardest part was getting the old grips off - used an air compressor plus a lot of elbow grease. Getting on was easier - borrowed the wife's hairspray... :p
 

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I installed mine under the stock grips, knowing i was going to change grips this winter, so I wrapped with duct tape. it was a little gooey when I took the grip off and changed but no problems. I didn't use the heat shrink on the left bar, but I wish I did. next to crash bars this mod is neccesity! I can wear thin gloves in 40 degree weather!
 

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Thanks guys. But now for another question. How can I remove the grips without a compressor ?? Is it possible to spray WD-40 under them and twist them off ?? Not having an air supply and a few other nice garage toys tends to limit my productivity. Helpful hints are much appreciated.
 

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Use a long, thin screwdriver to get under the grip contact surface. Push it all the way to the grip flange then run it around the circle to break the glue bond completely. A little WD-40 will help get the screwdriver all the way around and allow the glue residue to slide over better.
 

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Hey WW, I use a piece of coat hanger to get my grips off. Take a piece about a foot long and bend it 90º at around the 8" mark. Insert the long section between the grip and the bars and then use the short section to spin the wire. It'll walk itself around the bar, breaking the bond between the grip and bars. Once you've loosened it up, spray a little windex into the opening created by the wire and spin it around again to lube it up. The grip will slide off easy after that, no marks on the bars, no damage to the grip and the windex dries much better than the WD-40 to give you better stick when you put the new grips on.

I use my wife's hairspray when its time to install the new grips. Slippery when wet but dries like glue, and it smells so nice too. :-D
 

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"...so I used a piece of thick walled heat shrink tubing to act as an insulator on the clutch side. "
Geez, that's a neat tip! With my Suzuki heated grips the left is barely warm while the right is cooking my hand - I wondered why Suzuki didn't make a balance adjustment in the controller, or at least make the right heater less wattage then the left. Now it's going to bug me even more knowing there is a simple solution!
 

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Thanks guys. But now for another question. How can I remove the grips without a compressor ?? Is it possible to spray WD-40 under them and twist them off ?? Not having an air supply and a few other nice garage toys tends to limit my productivity. Helpful hints are much appreciated.
The compressor thing was a waste of time for me but the WD-40 trick work brilliantly... Just slide a screw driver under the grip, spray some WD-40 in there and work your way around the grip until it loosens up and pops off. It takes a couple of minutes but it does work.

- Martin
 

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Neat ideas guys !! Thanks a truckload for the hints and experience. Now it seems that I am commited to do this. Will try this in the next few days and report on my success. Failure is not an option.
 

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Actually the Batcave was warmer last week but I was still mulling over my ideas and procedures. About +5 down there now. The bike is too big to get in the apartment or it would be real warm and toastie to work on. Of course Lynda's little Marauder would have to move over.
 

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I have a set of Renthal aluminum bars, so I used a piece of thick walled heat shrink tubing to act as an insulator on the clutch side. On the throttle side, I just stuck the element on.
Mentioned this to a power worker friend, and he gave me a couple of 3M ColdShrinks meant for high voltage underground power connections. They are stretched tubes over a stiff spiral that pulls out one end to shrink down very tightly. I had to use silicone grease to slide the Suzuki heated grip on, and it feels quite a bit thicker - but the heat output now matches the throttle side.

(edit) Never mind - just looked up the price: $27 each :(
 
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