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Planning a trip to Hoover dam and Grand Canyon..any input or suggestions are welcome.
My wife and I were there a few years ago on rented Harleys in mid-November.

The lesson I took away is hydrate, hydrate and hydrate.

We almost had a "situation".

Being from California, you probably already know this.

We really didn't spend enough time on the bikes in the Grand Canyon area, we instead went to Phoenix to stay with friends where it was too hot to ride from 2:00 PM - 6:00 PM - in November!?!?!?

Have fun.
 

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you'll really enjoy the route thru flag, sedona, cottonwood, and jerome. looks like you're hitting the good places.

i don't know how much time you have planned out to do this, but just by cottonwood near 89A is a little place called clarkdale. you can hop on the verde canyon railroad there and see some nice canyon views from the train. i went once in december and it was fantastic.

i'm from phoenix and stromin is spot on with suggesting to stay hydrated. many visitors to AZ underestimate their need for water because you don't feel yourself sweating, it evaporates right off your skin. it's easy to get dehydrated and suffer heat stroke. for example, this happened just last month. despite the grotesque sounding title, this is an educational book to read before you go. this book details a lot of historical information about the park in an .... interesting way. ;)

oh, and dont forget to pack a wide angle lens & tripod! :yesnod:
 

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oh, and dont forget to pack a wide angle lens & tripod! :yesnod:
We were a few miles down the Bright Angel Trail when I was happy to learn that my new (HP Photsmart 937 $250) digital camera has a panorama feature!

Definitely worth looking into.

This is a greatly reduced-resolution collage of three panoramas that I printed onto 11 x 17 photo paper.

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This may seem all to obvious to many of you, but if I overlooked it, surely others have as well...

I took a trip to Phoenix a couple years ago from the east coast. It was Thanksgiving weekend and it was my first trip to the southwest. While there, my wife and I drove (a rental car, not motorcycles) up to the south rim. I was decked out for some nice warm desert hiking. Dumb idea. I had no idea we would gain 5500 feet in altitude by the time we got there. It was cold and windy at the canyon and we were not prepared. Because of that, we were unable to do much sight seeing. What a HUGE disappointment. I kick myself every time I think about it because I'm usually Mr. over-preparation.

In short- Be prepared for both extremes with the weather, and everything in between.

It's a beautiful place though, and I would love to go back sometime. I was particularly fond of the area around Flagstaff, even though I only got to pass through there. Enjoy your trip and be safe!
 

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It was cold and windy at the canyon and we were not prepared. Because of that, we were unable to do much sight seeing. What a HUGE disappointment. I kick myself every time I think about it because I'm usually Mr. over-preparation.

In short- Be prepared........
I'll second that! The weather in Northern AZ can be a bit fickle. You could even get snow on the South Rim at that time of year..... The good news, few people!
If your time allows, give Heavy-H and I a shout..... always good for a beer or HOT cup of coffee:yesnod:
Yesterday Mother Nature brought some snow to areas around Flagstaff

 

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Thanks for all the tips, especially regarding hydration and possible weather conditions in Flagstaff and at the canyon.

I was originally going to take this trip back in June. But I figured the temps in Nevada and Phoenix as well as the crowds at the canyon might be too much, so I decided to take my Northern Ca trip instead.
See report: http://www.stromtrooper.com/ride-reports-route-sheets/53569-l-s-f-lake-tahoe-yosemite-sequoia.html

The pics of the canyon look amazing. Although I've been there before, it was like 35 years ago. I still remember the awesome feeling you get when you're standing on the edge on the canyon and realize just how spectacular it really is...It makes you feel pretty insignificant in the scope of things.

Basecamp: After checking out some of your ride reports from around the area, I'm really looking forward to taking this trip.:thumbup:
 

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Sounds like fun. I did a six day hike in the canyon back in the spring. We saw 140 in the sun at the river and snow on the north rim. Be prepared for temp changes and drink lots of water.
 
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