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Looking at replacing my stock system cases. Not that I don't think Suzuki did a good job designing these, I just REALLY like the look of the aluminum and top-loading features of the Givi and SW-Motech. I also looked at Jesse luggage, but I really do not care for the mounting solution from Jesse Luggage. I'm sure I read somewhere that the SW-Motech rack has adapters for other manufacturers bags, and I THINK they have one for Jesse. I do not know this for sure though.
I have some questions:

From those who have either; why did you select the one you have?
What size did you go with, both the same or asymmetrical?
To me from what I can see, the SW-Motech has the more robust mounting system. Though the Givi looks good, I just like the way the Motech rack is easy to remove if for some reason you want to ride sans cases and rack.

Any and all feedback regarding these two would be appreciated.
 

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I'm not an owner, but have been looking at both systems for a little while now. What I've seen as the weakest point of the Givi system are the plastic mounting points that are attached to the back of the boxes. SW-Motech uses a metal system and I think the rivets holding it are more robust. I bought the Givi Dolomiti boxes and was concerned about the plastic mounts, but I looked at the Outbacks in comparison and it looks like they use the same system. I figured that if they use the same mounts from the "budget" Dolomitis as their Outbacks, the system must be pretty good. Still, I had that shred of doubt. Either way, I got a fantastic deal on them and I travel very light, so I'm hoping that they hold up. If not, I'm clever enough to fix it.

A few days later I found this video. I would suspect that they massively overpacked this bike (riding two up), but a few others on the forums have mentioned these plastic mounting brackets breaking off.

(I can't share the video link because my post count isn't high enough:furious:) So search "Around Gaia Hitchhiking in Mexico" and it'll come up.

My Dolomiti boxes are in the USA and I won't have a chance to get my hands on them until I get back next month, so if you're still on the fence by then, I can give you a better idea of my experience when I get back.
 

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I'm not an owner, but have been looking at both systems for a little while now. What I've seen as the weakest point of the Givi system are the plastic mounting points that are attached to the back of the boxes. SW-Motech uses a metal system and I think the rivets holding it are more robust. I bought the Givi Dolomiti boxes and was concerned about the plastic mounts, but I looked at the Outbacks in comparison and it looks like they use the same system. I figured that if they use the same mounts from the "budget" Dolomitis as their Outbacks, the system must be pretty good. Still, I had that shred of doubt. Either way, I got a fantastic deal on them and I travel very light, so I'm hoping that they hold up. If not, I'm clever enough to fix it.



A few days later I found this video. I would suspect that they massively overpacked this bike (riding two up), but a few others on the forums have mentioned these plastic mounting brackets breaking off.



(I can't share the video link because my post count isn't high enough:furious:) So search "Around Gaia Hitchhiking in Mexico" and it'll come up.



My Dolomiti boxes are in the USA and I won't have a chance to get my hands on them until I get back next month, so if you're still on the fence by then, I can give you a better idea of my experience when I get back.


Thank you very kindly.


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Looking at replacing my stock system cases. Not that I don't think Suzuki did a good job designing these, I just REALLY like the look of the aluminum and top-loading features of the Givi and SW-Motech. I also looked at Jesse luggage, but I really do not care for the mounting solution from Jesse Luggage. I'm sure I read somewhere that the SW-Motech rack has adapters for other manufacturers bags, and I THINK they have one for Jesse. I do not know this for sure though.
I have some questions:

From those who have either; why did you select the one you have?
What size did you go with, both the same or asymmetrical?
To me from what I can see, the SW-Motech has the more robust mounting system. Though the Givi looks good, I just like the way the Motech rack is easy to remove if for some reason you want to ride sans cases and rack.

Any and all feedback regarding these two would be appreciated.
If you end up getting some other cases, would you be interested in selling those OEM?
 

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If you end up getting some other cases, would you be interested in selling those OEM?


They are listed on the For sale page. Should be at the top.


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I've had the Give Trekker Outback systems for a while (this is my 3rd year) and they are very solid. I had a full camping load last May on the Trans Labrador highway (at least 50% gravel) and had no issues. The cases are very strong and lock solidly. Easy on/off and you can strap stuff on top of them.
The only thing I've replaced was a small spacer which I was able to buy from Revzilla,
https://www.revzilla.com/search?_utf8=✓&query=Z125+MUSHROOM+SPACERS
It did not break, the screw that holds it vibrated off when the cases weren't mounted. Simply replacing the screw would have sufficed in a pinch.
Great system, try to see them in person compared to some of the lesser crap that's out there.
 

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Bought the Kappa cases from Motostorm in Italy, exactly the same as Givi but $200.00 cheaper. Did however, use the Givi rack and has not been a problem. Might look at them for a comparison sake..... just a thought
 

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I'm in the same exact boat. I've used the SW-Motech quick-disconnect racks and Trax EVO boxes on my 650 for years and been very happy with them. I ordered the new racks for my new '18 1000 but was planning to keep my old EVO boxes. It's looking like the buyer of my 650 is going to want my old boxes as well so I'm probably going to be ordering the new boxes soon too. I'm probably going to stick with the SW-Motech myself but I think they're both quality products.

I'm not sure who the CA distributor is but the racks are on back order through Twisted Throttle (the US distributor) with stock not expected until late May.
 

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I'm in the same exact boat. I've used the SW-Motech quick-disconnect racks and Trax EVO boxes on my 650 for years and been very happy with them. I ordered the new racks for my new '18 1000 but was planning to keep my old EVO boxes. It's looking like the buyer of my 650 is going to want my old boxes as well so I'm probably going to be ordering the new boxes soon too. I'm probably going to stick with the SW-Motech myself but I think they're both quality products.



I'm not sure who the CA distributor is but the racks are on back order through Twisted Throttle (the US distributor) with stock not expected until late May.


Twisted Throttle Canada is our supplier for the SW Motech luggage. There are others here, such as Fort Nine.

Quick question: which is better, the new Ion series or the EXO Adv cases? I BELIEVE the Ion replaces and has some issues fixed or changed from the last generation from SW Motech, but I have not owned SW Motech system cases before so I have nothing to base an opinion on other then watching and reading the view points from Revzilla.


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Twisted Throttle Canada is our supplier for the SW Motech luggage. There are others here, such as Fort Nine.

Quick question: which is better, the new Ion series or the EXO Adv cases? I BELIEVE the Ion replaces and has some issues fixed or changed from the last generation from SW Motech, but I have not owned SW Motech system cases before so I have nothing to base an opinion on other then watching and reading the view points from Revzilla.


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Yes, in the case of the side cases the ION replaces the original EVOs and they are reportedly a slight upgrade from them. The TRAX ADVs meanwhile are their "premium" side case. Whether or not the ADVs are worth the price premium over the ION is an open question, I think. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of reviews out there on either of them yet. There's one direct comparison video between the two on Youtube but it's in Greek. Anyone speak Greek who can translate for us? :)
 

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Yes, in the case of the side cases the ION replaces the original EVOs and they are reportedly a slight upgrade from them. The TRAX ADVs meanwhile are their "premium" side case. Whether or not the ADVs are worth the price premium over the ION is an open question, I think. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of reviews out there on either of them yet. There's one direct comparison video between the two on Youtube but it's in Greek. Anyone speak Greek who can translate for us? :)
It's all Greek to me... LOL
 

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Yes, in the case of the side cases the ION replaces the original EVOs and they are reportedly a slight upgrade from them. The TRAX ADVs meanwhile are their "premium" side case. Whether or not the ADVs are worth the price premium over the ION is an open question, I think. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of reviews out there on either of them yet. There's one direct comparison video between the two on Youtube but it's in Greek. Anyone speak Greek who can translate for us? :)


Another thing to think about would be the long term usage for soft luggage too. Has anyone ever had issues with solid attachments of soft luggage to SW Motech racks? (Outside of Mosko who uses a proprietary attachment system)

The SW racks have an odd shape.
 

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I have the Givi Trekker Outback cases and HATE them... I believe you mentioned doing some long 2 up trips, these cases and possibly others of this style will leave very little leg room for the passenger. I had some plates custom made to try and fix the issue by lowering the cases. I have not tried them yet though. If you are going to be close to Kingston send me a PM and you can check them out on my bike and see what you think. Even if you are not doing 2up, they situp so much higher then the seat that they make getting on/off the bike a pain.

On my 2014 I had the Shad SH36. They didn't hold nearly as much but where a much better design for 2up riding.

heck I dislike them so much i'd consider selling you them! haha
 

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There's one direct comparison video between the two on Youtube but it's in Greek. Anyone speak Greek who can translate for us? :)
Sure, is "SW Motech TraX ADV vs GIVI Trekker Outback vs Hepco Xplorer 30 review by MotoRAID (Greek)" the video you refer to?
I think I can provide a summary in the weekend :)
 

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The build quality and toughness of the cases between Motech and Givi is very obvious IMHO.....go with the Givi. The Motech racks are also very wide and don't fit close to the bike, Givi racks on the other hand are very close into the bike and not nearly as wide.
 

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The build quality and toughness of the cases between Motech and Givi is very obvious IMHO.....go with the Givi. The Motech racks are also very wide and don't fit close to the bike, Givi racks on the other hand are very close into the bike and not nearly as wide.


Lol. When I look at the two products, I also see a discrepancy in quality, or better, toughness. Though from how I am looking at the two, the Givi is lacking. I will look at both with fresh eyes, see if I can see your points.

Edit: I remember why I am leaning to the SW...the mounting system. The SW mount seems stronger, no plastic bits and should I ever choose to remove the mount it’s dead easy. I do recall some negative feedback regarding the Givi mount system. That was a big detractor for me. I realize SW has adapter plates for Givi cases, but I prefer not to have to use an intermediary solution.


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Sure, is "SW Motech TraX ADV vs GIVI Trekker Outback vs Hepco Xplorer 30 review by MotoRAID (Greek)" the video you refer to?
I think I can provide a summary in the weekend :)
Yup, that's the one!
 

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The build quality and toughness of the cases between Motech and Givi is very obvious IMHO.....go with the Givi. The Motech racks are also very wide and don't fit close to the bike, Givi racks on the other hand are very close into the bike and not nearly as wide.
I'm surprised to hear this. I can't speak to the new rack or the ADV cases but the quick disconnect EVO racks I have on my '11 650 and the EVO cases have survived (and protected the bike from damage) in three drops; one low speed on dirt and two at a standstill. (Yea, there's a story for each... :smile2: ) They're definitely tough enough for my use which, granted, is limited to commuting and the occasional road trip and does not include hardcore adventuring.

I should have the new SW-Motech racks by late next week so I can post pics then but I'm surprised to hear that you think they are very wide. The old ones certainly were but that was largely a function of the old exhaust position. The new ones sit above the exhaust so they're a lot closer to the bike. I didn't look that closely to compare them to the GIVI so maybe the GIVI are closer.
 
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