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After trying my Android Samsung S6 for a while I decided to take some spare bonus and do an upgrade from the old TomTom 720 I used to use. My requirements are:

Sirius/XM sat radio
Bluetooth interface to Sena smh10
Waterproof
Screen bright enough in sunlight
Map/Navigation features are fine

Any information would be appreciated. Please no debate on phone vs dedicated gps. lol
 

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Wow - only one responder on another thread. Since there is a replacement model the price on these have been reduced to roughly 60%. It is ordered with a hood, Ram mount plate, and a extra power cord so it is always charging. They seem to work well with the Sena units I have. I noticed the BMW Zumo hood units mount the antenna right on the top of unit itself which surprised me. They claim it works very well.
 

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Buddy of mine has one and loves it, I too am considering this model or the 390.
 

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Sunlight Readable

There is one (1) automotive GPS unit that is sunlight readable, Garmin Zumo 590. See specs below with link.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-the-road/motorcycles/zumo-590lm/prod145273.html


Physical dimensions 5.9"W x 3.8"H x 1.3"D (14.9 x 9.7 x 3.3 cm)
Display size, WxH 4.25"W x 2.55"H (10.8 x 6.5 cm); 5.0" diag (12.6 cm)
Display resolution, WxH 800 x 480 pixels
Display type transflective

The Z 390 does not have it. This display takes direct, over-the-shoulder sunlight and reflects it back into your eyes plus the LCD light in the unit. It is the most expensive Zumo, now $799.00 at most places. I have mentioned this many times on this site without drawing any comment from the troops. So, I conclude this is something that must be seen: A Z 390 and Z 590 outside, in direct sunlight held together by one person's hands. This test is never likely to actually be done by anyone. Generally, therefore, when we say we want to have a GPS we can read in the sun, we actually mean we would glad pay plenty for this feature but only if it doesn't cost anything.
 

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We had the Garmin 660LM which we now use on our DR's.
An electronics store here in Oz went down the gurgler & had a fire sale so we picked up 2 Garmin 590LM for half price.:grin2:
There was nothing wrong with the 660's but at that price we thought it would be silly to pass em by.
We have found them to be really good, easy to use and see, screen is bigger and display clearer.



Cheers V2man & GotaV2
 

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We have had the zumo660 for many years now and it's great paired to sena smh-10 wired to the bike.
You get gps instructions if needed and music no problems and very robust I have dropped mine and it's still going strong.
They are waterproof as well we have put them to the test in some good downpours over the years.

We recently got the zumo 590 on a Dick Smith closeout sale for $400 each bargain :grin2:

They have a bigger screen and better graphics and the microsd card capacity for extra maps and music is bigger we have a 32GB in ours.

Very happy with both units we now use the 660 on the DR's and the 590 on the DL's.

The main difference with the zumo 390 and the 590 in case you are looking at them is the 390 does not have music capabilities and the screen is smaller.

Cheers GotaV2
 

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The 590s are still $800 USD here and only go on small sales from what I have found. I have not seen one below $750 which is still nearly twice what I paid for the 665. I got to finally see a 665 and it is much brighter than the very old auto TomTom 720 I am using now. I know the 590 is even better in sunlight so I picked up a large hood for the 665. Thanks for the info!
 

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Nice. I wanted the XM receiver w/ the nav traffic I have in my car and I don't think the 390 or 590 offers it. It sounds like the Garmin Zumo's are the way to go especially if one wants to Bluetooth to the Sena's. The step up in graphics on the 590 was nice plus the better sunlight screen but I couldn't justify the price difference.
 

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Nice. I wanted the XM receiver w/ the nav traffic I have in my car and I don't think the 390 or 590 offers it. It sounds like the Garmin Zumo's are the way to go especially if one wants to Bluetooth to the Sena's. The step up in graphics on the 590 was nice plus the better sunlight screen but I couldn't justify the price difference.
That was the very internal debate I had. The 590 is the superior device in almost every way but its price tag was too high for me. The 660LM can be had for just over $300 right now, and the 665LM with XM receiver in the $420-460 range. The 390LM can be had for $540 shipped from places like Motorcycle Superstore. I decided to pay the premium of a 390 over the 660/665 because its interface seemed a little faster and it has more of the 590's DNA, which I believe will continue to evolve over the 66x series, but honestly that's just my own speculation since Garmin is tight-lipped about its product roadmaps. I also wanted the ability to plot winding road routes, which I think only the x90 series has. The 66x can act as an MP3 and XM music player, but I have my phone for that (both bound directly to my Sena 20S). I don't really need real-time traffic or weather since most of the time I can use my phone for that between legs.

In any case, everyone I know who owns a 660, 665, 390 or 590 enjoys their purchase. I don't know anyone running TomToms, so I can't provide data points there. The Zumos have their quirks and BaseCamp is tricky to learn at first, but once you get some chair and seat time with them, they work really, really well together.
 

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Got the Zumo installed and wired and it works great. I didn't realize just how bad that old TomTom was. I have a hood coming too but I can see the screen fine through the iridium shield in sunlight. I really like that it turns off automatically and on with the key.
 

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Close to 800 us for a gps? Still shopping, had a zumo for years then they closed support. I find amazon usually has the best $ but will see.
 

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Mine was about half of that. I did not want to pay $800 for a gps on my motorcycle.
 

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I just put in a support call direct to Garmin on the XM receiver and the call was picked up immediately and they helped me find the answer in less than ten minutes. I thought their support was excellent.
 
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