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I want to keep my new Vee bright and shiny as long as possible. I was thinking about installing frame sliders that a previous post recommended. A number of you have reported that crash bars haven't faired so well in your dismounts. Any comments?
 

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I prefer the bars to the sliders. I've seen lots of sliders that bent/broke when they were called into action. I don't like that one mounting point with the impact coming at such a distance from the base. Just too much bending force for my liking. I've tested my Givi bars (sure, it was on purpose, I'd never drop my bike :rolleyes: ) and, other than a scratch in the bar itself and some rash on my hand guard, no damage.
 

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I have the sliders on my bike and I may have been a contributor to the other posting you read. I'm still thinking about adding crash guards (not in lieu of sliders, but in addition to), but just haven't yet. I ride mostly street on my Strom, except for the hundred yards or so of dirt road that leads to my house. So far I haven't dumped the bike in a couple of places on my dirt drive that are challenging--a fairly extreme degree/uphill turn in rutted out dirt (my "driveway") is the big daily challenge--so I haven't put anything to the test. I do feel like crash bars could save my plastics in that situation better than the sliders, but the sliders would be better if I were low-siding. Both would help when beyond the tipping point in really low-speed maneuvers and just couldn't keep the bike from going over (also think the bone-headed garage or gas station moments, too).

As to Heavy's comment about sliders that break/bend upon impact, I haven't seen that. That's not to say it can't happen, but I've been to a few track days and have only seen sliders that are worn down due to a low-side, but not broken or bent. Clearly, they did their job. Now, is it possible a gnarly high-side could bend or break frame sliders once the bike starts it's flipping process (assuming a high speed high-side)? Sure, but at that point sliders are of no use and you're bike's probably going to be totalled and so are you, and, and...OK, so clearly this is not the situation we're talking about. Low-sides or tip-overs are what we're talking about, right? Typically a low-side occurs when the bike is already pretty far over, and the distance to the ground has been minimized by your lean angle. Tires give out, and down you go. I suppose it also depends upon the terrain you're on and the kind of riding you'll be doing. I'm looking to add the guards because they protect the front part of the bike, while on the Strom the sliders protect more of the middle (foot pegs, shifter and rear brake, engine case, etc). Neither is going to give 100% protection if you're moving along at a decent clip, so it's probably going to come down to personal choice and how the bike looks (come on, we all know that's part of it!)...

A final thought on the sliders. The bolt used on frame sliders for the Strom is the main engine bolt. This thing is deeply inset in the sliders, and I can't see how a low-side would/could actually bend the bolt. Yes, it's a little bit longer than the stock engine bolt to accomodate a little extra width at the base of the sliders, but it's not sticking out and vulnerable. Further, the bolt is solid and is cranked down pretty hard (don't remember the torque setting on it, but it's significant). Besides, even if it did bend the bolt, did it still protect everything else?

I have pictures of the sliders I can send you--I can't figure out how to make them a small enough file size to post them here, sorry. If you'd like to see the Frame Sliders installed on the Strom, shoot me your email.

Sorry for the long-winded post--I'm notorious for it!
Cheers-
A.S.
 

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Sounds like the Strom has a more robust mounting point for the sliders. I rode a Yamaha FZ-6 last year and there was a number of guys that had sliders bend and break on those. Actually had a couple of guys who dropped their bikes and ended up with frame damage from their sliders.
 

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I've got the Pat Walsh crash bar/skidplate combo. Have dropped the bike loaded with no damage to the bars or bike.
(had just put the bike in gear, somebody I know drives by and waves, I wave back with my left hand Dooooh)

They're 1" tubing and will accept any number of cheap foot pegs for highway pegs. Can't do that with sliders.
 
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