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I was wanting some more lights, mostly so people can see me, not so much so I can see them. In the past I made some LED lights from scratch using ABS pipe for the housing, etched my own circuit, etc. I was thinking about redesigning that setup using SMD components, but while I was browsing eBay, I stumbled across these I got a pair for $18. They are 12V 10W waterproof spotlights made for fountains and pools. I was leery of how wide the beam would be, but decided to take a chance.


We'll, they're bright, and at 10W each running ~14V, they'll pull under 2 (~1.4A) amps.



I didn't want to use the bracket that came with them and I wanted to mount them on the fork lowers for a "triangulation" of light, so I mocked up a new mount with some of the leftover computer case I had laying around. It's pretty thin so it's easy to work with. This was more a "proof of concept" because this stuff is definitely too thin to last very long.


Got one mount made just to see how it looks. While this may be sufficient, I'm going to make some new mounts using some heavier sheet.


One LED only. No headlight. Just thrown on there, not aimed properly.


Low beam and one LED.


They're pretty simple. All aluminum housing acts as a heat sink. The LED chip is thermal pasted and screwed to the housing. The lens has a silicone sleeve to seal it up. The back case is sealed via silicone washer. Inside you'll find the constant current LED driver, which I've found will handle switching the polarity for you, so even if you hook the thing up backwards, it works. The driver is suspended/supported via the wires. If it were to fail, I'd imagine this is where you may end up with a loose or broken solder connection to the driver board. I've also seen some reflectors that can be purchased to go between the LED and lens to focus the light more. I'll get these on the road and see how they do before I worry about that.





You can find them all over eBay. I went with this because it shipped from the USA and had the "bubble" lens, which I'm thinking will focus the light more. You can get them with a flat lens and in the RGB flavor (red-green-blue) that comes with a remote so you can make them shine any color under the sun.
 

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I dig it, I mounted some led spot lights on my Vee as well. I just used the bracket for the fender.

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They were about $30 on amazon, I use them all the time. Now that I've actually seen the projector style like yours, I'm definitely buying some, I need tiny ones for the back I my bike. I like having "a$$hole lights" on the back for people who don't like to turn off their brights or are too close to me.


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Finally had a chance to finish this up a few weeks ago. I used some heavier sheetmetal and made some new mounts. Coated them with spray-on bedliner.


Got them mounted and wired up. Currently I don't have a switch, they're wired directly to the battery with a relay on a switched power source, so they come on with the key. Yesterday I bought a switch that will get mounted in the inner fairing next to my heated grip dial and 12V power outlet.

Here's a few pics.

No lights on (just the flash from my phone).


I have discovered that even though these lights look identical and have the same LED chip, same lens, etc. they have very different beam patterns.

Left ONLY - very narrow


Right ONLY - very wide


both LED's


LED's and low beam


LED's and hi beam


Oncoming - low beam and LED's


I've adjusted them a bit lower too, just to avoid blinding people. I rarely ride after dark and have only gone down the road a ways while it's dark and didn't encounter any cars, so I have no idea if I'll get people flashing me or not. If so, I'll just flip them off and do some more adjusting.

I played a little before I got them mounted with using some aluminum flashing behind the lens to get a good "cutoff" line, but was unsuccessful. Now that they're mounted and wireds and I can easily unscrew the lens, I may try a few more ideas to try to keep from blinding oncoming traffic.
 

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Could the difference in light pattern be due to the "lens" being rotated and they not being symmetrical or something?? In any case. I think I'd like the right one to be wider to see more off the edge of the road at night.
 

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I tried switching the lenses, but it didn't make a difference. I'm not sure if the CREE style LEDs come in different viewing angles?? Maybe one just has a wider spread?

Before I realized the difference in beams, I had the wide on the left but switched them once I saw the difference.
 

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Those are friggin' awesome!

Any idea on what I'd search for? "Waterproof Pool Lights" or similar?
 

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That should return something. Try LED fountain spotlight if you don't find what you're looking for.
 

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If anyone is looking for a "notice me" small light, I HIGHLY recommend these. you get 3 pairs (6 lights) for $10. That's not a mistype. (go for the 9W, not the 3W)

They are about the size of a nickle in front, and about 1" long. They are absurdly bright, and can be mounted with simple rubber covered clamps or plastic conduit clamps.

I've actually bought 18 pair (3 orders) and have been installing em on my friends bikes, as they have been wanting a pair after seeing mine in person.

If you're worried about durability, mine are mounted on my GS, Wee and SV650S for about 4-5 months now. Between the 3 bikes there's over 7500 miles (on and off road) and have had no problems.

I have no affiliation with the seller or whoever makes em. I just love em and think they are the best value at 6 lights for $7.
 

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Damn! Looks like none of those vendors on Amazon (USA) will ship to Oz.... That'd be right! :headbang:

Oh well..... Time to do some research :furious:
 

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They are about the size of a nickle in front, and about 1" long. They are absurdly bright, and can be mounted with simple rubber covered clamps or plastic conduit
Any chance of posting a photo so we can see how you've mounted them? :thumbup:
 

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Thanks mate - got 2 for the princely sum of $23. Will have a play & see how they go!
Cool. Post up some photos of the beam pattern for yours. I wonder if they're all so inconsistent.

If anyone is looking for a "notice me" small light, I HIGHLY recommend these. you get 3 pairs (6 lights) for $10. That's not a mistype. (go for the 9W, not the 3W)

They are about the size of a nickle in front, and about 1" long. They are absurdly bright, and can be mounted with simple rubber covered clamps or plastic conduit clamps.

I've actually bought 18 pair (3 orders) and have been installing em on my friends bikes, as they have been wanting a pair after seeing mine in person.

If you're worried about durability, mine are mounted on my GS, Wee and SV650S for about 4-5 months now. Between the 3 bikes there's over 7500 miles (on and off road) and have had no problems.

I have no affiliation with the seller or whoever makes em. I just love em and think they are the best value at 6 lights for $7.
Do these have any kind of constant current circuitry? There's quite a few reviews that say they quit after a few days, so I'm wondering if that's maybe the issue, but it's hard to tell with those reviews. People are dumb and will just twist wires together and cover them with a Scooby-Doo bandaid (no joke, seen it before). But $10 is cheap. I may have to order some just in case.
 
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