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I have been looking at a Super Tenere or Vee2 for my next bike.
Today I went to a Suzuki dealer near me and they had a new Vee2, no demo and a used Super T with about6K klm on it. Dealership would not allow a ride on it either, even though I told the guy I was going for a test demo at another Yamaha dealer...btw I am 57 ...not a kid anymore.
Oh, well, I guess they didn't want my business.
In fairness, the salesman was no kid either...and quite a nice fellow...just dealership policy.
Anyway, enough with the rant.
I took the second ST out, a 2013 with 1700 klm on it.
Liked everything about the bike.
Tried T and S modes, both ok.
The problem was that unless the engine was at a steady rpm, it was VERY vibey under anything but very gentle acceleration.
How do you find the Vee2 under load?
I had a Wee and it was very smooth.
I understand that these engines are twice the size, but I was quite surprised at how rough the Ten was...and it did run well.
BTW, it is quite the stealth bomber, not really quick, but deceptively fast and once set up for a corner, can really hustle confidently.
 

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No Vibes on new V-Strom

Hey Toto, I just turned over 1200 miles on my new V-Strom. I can tell you what most of the others on the forum that have put some miles on their bike will confirm. It's an incredible machine at any price and will keep you grinning for a long time. As far as engine vibes, it is a large v-twin but produces both HP and torque very early in the rpm range with little or no vibes. I took mine out tonight for a spin after changing the oil and filter. Don't really notice any buzz or vibes until the 5-6K RPM range and even then very minor as you continue up the power band until 7K RPM. When traveling over the highway it is very relaxed and comfortable at high speed and when getting on in the mountains of Virginia it handles like a dream. Don't really need to set her up for turns, just point and shoot. Like others have said it goes through turns like it's on a rail and I haven't adjusted the suspension at all. Very easy to hang off in higher speed riding in turns and move around on the seat for your favorite spot. As far as speed goes the V-Strom is a sleeper. According to Cycle World I believe they posted a quarter mile time of just over 11 seconds. Not bad for a bike with a slipper clutch! If you shift gears at 6K rpms you will be illegal in second gear depending on the speed limit! Try 7K in second gear and you will have a new view of the horizon as the front end lifts with little effort! Not that I drive that way all the time but once broken in this bike is all about the "Grin Factor". Now just to let you know I'm not a young buck either at 59 but enjoy a good ride and Suzuki has produced a winner this time around. If you have any specific questions you can PM me.

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Hi Guys
I have been looking at a Super Tenere or Vee2 for my next bike.
Today I went to a Suzuki dealer near me and they had a new Vee2, no demo and a used Super T with about6K klm on it. Dealership would not allow a ride on it either, even though I told the guy I was going for a test demo at another Yamaha dealer...btw I am 57 ...not a kid anymore.
Oh, well, I guess they didn't want my business.
In fairness, the salesman was no kid either...and quite a nice fellow...just dealership policy.
Anyway, enough with the rant.
I took the second ST out, a 2013 with 1700 klm on it.
Liked everything about the bike.
Tried T and S modes, both ok.
The problem was that unless the engine was at a steady rpm, it was VERY vibey under anything but very gentle acceleration.
How do you find the Vee2 under load?
I had a Wee and it was very smooth.
I understand that these engines are twice the size, but I was quite surprised at how rough the Ten was...and it did run well.
BTW, it is quite the stealth bomber, not really quick, but deceptively fast and once set up for a corner, can really hustle confidently.
We have been lucky in Australia, Suzuki Australia are really pushing the new 1000, and have encouraged most dealers to have a demo. In my local area alone I could go and take 3 demos within 1 hour of each other :thumbup:

I took a 1000 for a good long test ride recently, and loved the engine. I found it as smooth as, and pulled cleanly and smoothly. I did some roll on tests with my brother on his 650 and found no issues with vibes.

The 1000 is also very deceptively fast, same deal, set it up for a corner and it will pull very well, caught me by surprise a few times.:yikes:

Check out my review and vids here:

V-STROM 1000 2014 TEST RIDE – FIRST RIDE WITH ZEDEX9R ONBOARD | A Pair of Stroms
 

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Hey Toto, I just turned over 1200 miles on my new V-Strom. I can tell you what most of the others on the forum that have put some miles on their bike will confirm. It's an incredible machine at any price and will keep you grinning for a long time. As far as engine vibes, it is a large v-twin but produces both HP and torque very early in the rpm range with little or no vibes. I took mine out tonight for a spin after changing the oil and filter. Don't really notice any buzz or vibes until the 5-6K RPM range and even then very minor as you continue up the power band until 7K RPM. When traveling over the highway it is very relaxed and comfortable at high speed and when getting on in the mountains of Virginia it handles like a dream. Don't really need to set her up for turns, just point and shoot. Like others have said it goes through turns like it's on a rail and I haven't adjusted the suspension at all. Very easy to hang off in higher speed riding in turns and move around on the seat for your favorite spot. As far as speed goes the V-Strom is a sleeper. According to Cycle World I believe they posted a quarter mile time of just over 11 seconds. Not bad for a bike with a slipper clutch! If you shift gears at 6K rpms you will be illegal in second gear depending on the speed limit! Try 7K in second gear and you will have a new view of the horizon as the front end lifts with little effort! Not that I drive that way all the time but once broken in this bike is all about the "Grin Factor". Now just to let you know I'm not a young buck either at 59 but enjoy a good ride and Suzuki has produced a winner this time around. If you have any specific questions you can PM me.

Later

FastLane
Pretty sure most sport bikes have a slipper clutch, I know that my old sport touring C14 did and it was a rocket. Keeps your rear wheel from hopping or even locking up on downshifts while scrubbing off some speed, especially before entering some twisty turns.
 

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Thanx Lads

That's what I want to hear!
I have a 2009 CBF1000,bought new, old stock in 2011, a detuned fireblade engine with almost the same torque and hp as the new V...torque just a little higher up the band.
And, it has also been referred to as a "sleeper" by one professional reviewer.
Lots of huge get up and go for the real world.
Love the bike, but just a bit cramped for me...and it is not sold in the States, so a potential issue when I travel there.
I really must try to get a test drive on the Vee.
A dealer a couple hours from me mentioned he might keep a demo...must give him a call.
Make for a nice ride in my retirement.
Or...I could just buy the new Vee and put up the CBF for sale to please the wife...and price it too high to sell.....ya...that's the plan.:biggrinjester:


Dead man walking....:mrgreen:


P.S. There is a Youtube floating around showing a new Vee being caned in a crazy manner...looks like it goes like stink!
Really, the S10 was amazing, but the vibes were worse then any bike I have ever ridden by far...a shame really, more than sweet otherwise.
 

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Toto. Try Brampton Pwersports or just go to Romney, WV next weekend with us. They will have one available.
Hi Rick

Brampton Powersports is where I went.
They do have a Suzuki demo ride May 11.
I will be out of town on a fishing/drinking trip.
I understand that they didn't want me to demo a new floor model, but when they wouldn't let me demo a used Super Ten I was a little put off.

Oakville Yamaha let me demo their ST about an hour later.
Real nice dealership and if I ever decide to get a FJR, they will have my business. Actually, an FJR was on my list, but ultimately they "Adventure" platform is more comfy for me and meets more of my riding needs.
They let me demo a used FJR last fall.
If they sold Zooks, I would purchase from them even if they were a little more then another dealer. The salesman, Cam, is a good fella.

BTW, I did purchase my Wee back in 2009 from Brampton Suzook without a test ride, but I felt uncomfortable doing it.
Will shop around.
BTW, enjoy WV.
A bud and I went to Deals Gap last July and had fun.
The Dragon was challenging and work...you really had to concentrate.
The surrounding roads were much more fun.
We are heading south again in July, if I survive said fishing trip.
Don't know how far south we will get.
 

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I have about 1100 miles on my Veek and can confirm that as far as engine vibration under heavy load and higher gears, you're going to get some typical V-twin hammering below 3,000 RPM and some chugginess from 3,000 to about 3,800 RPM. Pretty much all disappears after 4K, very sweet manners. I am quite happy with the engine characteristics and performance.
 

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Thanx Stoopy
As I said a demo ride is in order.
Is it SIGNIFICNTLY worse then the Wee.
BTW, I found the Wee to be quite smooth...but I am now addicted to big torque.:yikes:
Don't mind some character, but the STen was hand numbing at anything more then light throttle.
 

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I too have a new 2014 Vee2. I have the Khaki and love it. the power is way more than I expect. have you come across any hard cases or accessories yet?
 

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In terms of vibration, I rented a 2011 Street Glide (103 CI) in AZ last month and put about 1500 miles on it over 5 days. I thoroughly enjoyed the engine (the rest of the bike, not so much). It was lumpy in stop and crawl traffic and had a tendency to shake turn signal bulbs to death at idle, but smoothed out nicely at highway speeds. And the vibration was never really intrusive or annoying.

I would imagine that the vee2 would fall somewhere in between the wee and a modern HD without the buzziness of a parallel twin. I have ridden a BMW F800ST a fair bit, and found the higher frequency vibes of that parallel twin to be particularly hand numbing at freeway speeds.
 

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Thanx Stoopy
As I said a demo ride is in order.
Is it SIGNIFICNTLY worse then the Wee.
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It is significantly more noticeable than the Wee, yes. It's not drastic but I can't say it's not significantly different.
 

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I did get numbness in my hands when riding my 11 Wee at 80 mph in 6th gear at 7k rpm on the highways. My Vee2 at 70 mph in 6th gear at 4k rpm exhibits no vibration.
 

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My V2 has no noticeable vibration at highway speed, my 03 on the other hand you could feel some vibration. However it never bothered me at all on the 03.
 

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To be perfectly clear, I was speaking of vibration below 3500 RPM since it was in response to the original question re: engine vibration under heavy load.
 

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There are some interesting views raised here. I am looking at the new V2 and possibly the Versys 1000, the Versys has a very solid engine and typical I4, I'm going to arrange a demo next week and will the demo the V2 and post my thoughts..........
Has anyone else ridden the Versys 1000 and care to share an opinion?
 

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I test rode the Versys last year and really liked it, although the ride was short and I cannot comment on long distance comfort. It is easy to push into a corner and there's plenty of power.

However, the Vee2 trumps in most likely every department except price as they can be had for 10k out the door in Canada.
 

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The big Versys looks just hideous to me, and an inline 4 is not a good choice IMHO.
 

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Hi Rick

Brampton Powersports is where I went.
They do have a Suzuki demo ride May 11.
I will be out of town on a fishing/drinking trip.
I understand that they didn't want me to demo a new floor model, but when they wouldn't let me demo a used Super Ten I was a little put off.

Oakville Yamaha let me demo their ST about an hour later.
Real nice dealership and if I ever decide to get a FJR, they will have my business. Actually, an FJR was on my list, but ultimately they "Adventure" platform is more comfy for me and meets more of my riding needs.
They let me demo a used FJR last fall.
If they sold Zooks, I would purchase from them even if they were a little more then another dealer. The salesman, Cam, is a good fella.

BTW, I did purchase my Wee back in 2009 from Brampton Suzook without a test ride, but I felt uncomfortable doing it.
Will shop around.
BTW, enjoy WV.
A bud and I went to Deals Gap last July and had fun.
The Dragon was challenging and work...you really had to concentrate.
The surrounding roads were much more fun.
We are heading south again in July, if I survive said fishing trip.
Don't know how far south we will get.
Thank you. I hope we will have a fun on roads around Romney and luckily have a chance to ride Vee2. Did I say I love the engine and tranny of CBF1000? Sweet machine except some vibration. This time only WV. I took the trip to BRP 3 years ago ( from the top - Skyline to the bottom Deals Gap) and had a blast (except maybe only the Deals Gap)
. Was planning to do it in July this year, but after some thinking decided to go down there in the beginning of June. It might be to hot in July. And yes you're right - very nice people at Yamaha in Oakville. Have a fun with your new bike whatever you choose and fish more then drink...
 

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I did get numbness in my hands when riding my 11 Wee at 80 mph in 6th gear at 7k rpm on the highways. My Vee2 at 70 mph in 6th gear at 4k rpm exhibits no vibration.
I'm pretty sure 80 miles/h in 6th gear on Wee reads about 6000RPM. There was now vibration on my...untill I installed aftermarket exhaust. Now is better again after installing 16T front sprocket. And also only 5500 RPM in the same conditions.
 
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