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First, sorry for yet another tire thread :) I need to replace the Trailwings on my 650. They wear just fine but I never really felt like they were good in the corners. They never seem to be planted and wander in the corners. I just may be used to the Bridgestone 020's I had on my VFR, they would rail through the corners in a precise sure footed way. Are the Dunlop D607's a big improvement over the Trailwing in the cornering department? I want street biased tires that are on the sporty side and keep comming back to the Dunlops, and yes price is a factor. If the Dunlops work well I can't see spending the extra coin on something like the Tourance EXP (which I would love to try). I know there are a lot of Dunlop haters out there but they are mostly sport bike pilots, seems the Dunlops are more favorable with the adventure touring pilots. So, what say you?

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I've ridden my share of bikes, both sport and "adventure" types, I ride pretty aggressive in the curves, and I know a thing or two about tires....

That being said, try looking at the Maxxis Presa Detours.
I've got about 1200 miles on my set, and they've been fantastic!!!
Also, it keeps the look of an adventure type bike...but don't let that fool you.

The price is right too.

http://arizonamoto.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=SWMT&Category_Code=Presa
 

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Also consider the new Bridgestone BT021's or the Battlewings.......both are also fantastic sport touring tires.
 

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I mistakenly got 607s last Fall, thinking they were a street only tire. A few weeks ago, I low sided in a snow melt runoff area of twisty suburban road at 20mph and not an aggressive lean angle. I can only hope there was something slipperier in that area than just water. I had a bad experience with a much heralded Dunlop sport tire in the early 1980s too so I'm changing brands next time as a mental precaution. They might be fine tires but I don't feel confident with them.
 

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I'm happy with my D607s. Ran them for most of last year and I've had no complaints. Certainly better than the OEM offerings that came with the bike.
 

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I had pretty good luck with the 607 rear I had on, just swapped front and rear for Conti trail attacks and really like them so far
 

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For some reason the Battlewing is not listed on swmoto or at Ron Ayers site. Also no 19" front with the BT 021. What front would match up with the BT 021. The 19" BT 020 is hard to find. I kind of like the idea of the BT 021 because of the good luck I had with the 020's on my VFR. TIA
 

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For some reason the Battlewing is not listed on swmoto or at Ron Ayers site. Also no 19" front with the BT 021. What front would match up with the BT 021. The 19" BT 020 is hard to find. I kind of like the idea of the BT 021 because of the good luck I had with the 020's on my VFR. TIA
Here is the link for the Battlewings from swmototire:
http://arizonamoto.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=SWMT&Category_Code=BW501

I bought a rear Battlewing from them 2 weeks ago and will install it in a few thousand more miles when the Trailwing wears down.
 

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I'm happy with my 607's

They are an improvement over the trailwings. I have noticed they are a bit louder and alot better off road. It ame in handy this past Sunday when I was presented with a van heading the wrong way coming right at me. Had to hit the ditch on the side of the road. The bike/tires did fine as I eased the thing out of the very wet ditch. I rode in the cold rain about 275 miles from Maryland to North Carolina and the traction/tracking was fine. But I was doing all slab in an attempt to get home before I froze to death!
 

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Those Dunlop's were fitted on my bike when I bought it. I never got to like them very much. On dry asphalt they where OK, but on wet asphalt I felt like I could never trust them. I have laid down my bike only once, and it was with the Dunlops on. After that experience I replaced them with Metzler Z6 and it made a huge difference..
Just my opinioin...
 

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Those Dunlop's were fitted on my bike when I bought it. I never got to like them very much. On dry asphalt they where OK, but on wet asphalt I felt like I could never trust them. I have laid down my bike only once, and it was with the Dunlops on. After that experience I replaced them with Metzler Z6 and it made a huge difference..
Just my opinioin...
In my case I bought the 607 rear, and then another. I thought it worked great in the dry, and the price was right. OTOH, I also have low-sided my bike one in the rain (very slippery bend), and it was with the D607. So I replaced it was a Pirelli Scorpion Sync S/T (the now-discontinued one) which I've discovered I also don't trust in the rain.
 

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couldn't wait, all other tires seem to be on backorder at warehouse, I only got 6000 out of my Maxxis Detour Presa rear, notmuch better than the Karoo T knobbys that I ran last winter. and not as good as the 7500 I got from the oem trailwings or 7500 from a continental road attack that I tried

the only thing that encourages me is one of my employees that has a 1150GS has 607s and when he went on vacation last week on a 3500 mile trip to Nova Scotia & back, when he left, his rear tire was quite a bit worse than mine, but unknown how many miles since new, when he came back, his tire was better than mine Maxxis that only had a few hundred miles mine is barely legal now, and I expect to see cords within a week if i don't get a new tire first

I used to get 12k-13k out of rear ries on my SV 650, I realize the Vee is 100lbs heavier and 30-35 more horsepower (50%) but seems like theys make a tire that lasts for heavy riders on heavy bikes



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D607s

I also lowsided while using Dunlop d607. The tread cap in my opinion does not allow for more than average lean angles. I had no problems on the road with the trailwings aside from a little tread squirm.( Due primarily to the small tread blocks). If you compare the two tires you will notice the trailwing tread cap curves around the side of the tire about an inch or so more than the 607 thus allowing more aggressive lean angles.
When I lowsided there was a small amount of sand on the road surface however that by itself should not have caused the spill in my opinion. When I examined the tire the next day I noticed the scuff where the tire lost traction,the contact pach was very small.
I have since contacted Dunlop and am waiting for a reply.
In conclusion the v-strom is a tall bike that can handle extreme lean angles with the right tires. I do not feel the 607s are the right tire for the v-stroms.
Regards Mike D.
 

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My 1K had a D607 on the front and a Tourance on the rear when I bought it. No idea how many miles on them. On my way home from purchasing the bike I spent a day in the NC mountains - 300 miles of twisties, gravel, rain and heat. Never had them squirm at all. I would drag footpegs before the tires would complain.

I'm not really a Dunlop fan, but I was pretty impressed with the D607 on the front. Also, I'm not sure if Mike D was looking at his rear tire, but my front has a pretty substantial "chicken strip" that I don't think could be leaned over any more without dragging hard parts.

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It is truly weird how many different opinions you can get about the same tire! In a German motorcycle magazine tire test the 607's came out middle of the pack. Not so good in the wet better than average in the dry. The winner were the Conti Trail Attacks. I put Bridgestone Battlewings on when the Trailwings wore out and liked them in the dry. Never had them in the wet. The rear tire wore out in a little over 5K miles! Just put a Dunlop 607 on the rear and rode it pretty hard in the corners for the first time today. Feels fine on dry clean roads. It was even less sensative to tar snakes than the Battlewing.;)
 

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I have 607's on my 02 DL 1000 they seem better than the trailwings but mileage on rear is poor. I am on my second rear with about 6000 miles and am looking for a replacement. What's up with the Battlewings?
 

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The 607 front on my wee currently has 13,000 miles on it, the rear lasted 10,500 to be replaced with another. No problems wet or dry and never a slip, slide or low side.
 

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A recent shoot out in Europe indicated the 607s are a bit slippery in the wet but give good mileage. That is also my experience. The shootout winner was the Conti Trail Attack. I have a set of high stick, low mileage Road Attacks waiting for after my 607s wear out. I think I'll run them in the winter for the best cold traction I can get and the TAs for long trips when the weather warms up next year.
 

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3 days/400 miles so far on my D607 rear, so far so good, only time will tell, most tires perform good when new, I'm more interested in how many miles they will go, and how well they perform as they wear, while I was happy with the Maxxis Presa Detour when they were new, I wasn't imprressed with the realtivley short treadlife and how they performed near the end



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