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Different side bags or how to store items?

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These bags came with the bike when I bought it but I'm not sure if I'm a big fan.. The side bags kind of puzzle me as when you open the side bags while mounted on the bike, basically everything falls out. Am I missing an internal system that should be there to hold everything from falling out while mounted or is the intent of these bags to load up and never open while mounted?

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Many types of side cases have internal cloth bags that fit the case. They zip closed and have handles so you can carry them. Maybe you can buy some to fit your cases.

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Those look like Givi E36/E36NA cases yes?


An elastic strap to help keep contents from moving or falling out was once available.

Pdf shows spare parts for these cases.. unfortunately it doesn't look like the interior strap (#15 in photos) is available any longer.

These guys


Would know for sure, being the US Givi distributor.

Beyond that: I've owned these cases. Recommend treating them as a "suitcase," remove and lay on some surface to access contents. If you open one while it's on the bike then yes, stuff is likely to fall out.

Center stand also helps. Bike will sit upright, then left case is not angled toward ground.

Liner bag for these is Givi T502B. You lose some storage volume, but then all your stuff can be in one removable bag.
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Recommend treating them as a "suitcase," remove and lay on some surface to access contents. If you open one while it's on the bike then yes, stuff is likely to fall out.
Both my vstroms have had similar side cases. Anything I expect to need on the road is either in the top case, or the right side case since being on the high side when the bike is on the side stand gives me some chance of opening the case without dumping everything on the ground. The left case is strictly for things I won't need till I've stopped for the night. A lot of members here are fond of packing cubes to help keep cases organized, and a system like that also makes it more likely to keep things in the case when you open it. I'm too cheap to buy packing cubes, but my old helmet bags do the same job.
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I've got these clamshell type cases as well and I positively hate them. Have only used them in anger once. They are now gathering dust in the garage.

In addition to all the reasons above, you can't "stuff" them. Whether you use interior liners or packing cubes, or the elastic that just doesn't stretch anymore after a few years, there's always dead space left over. Give me something top loading every time, where I have gravity on my side and can even use compression straps or something to get everything down and tight before closing the top. Similar to a decent top-loading hiking backpack.
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I've got these clamshell type cases as well and I positively hate them. Have only used them in anger once. They are now gathering dust in the garage.

In addition to all the reasons above, you can't "stuff" them. Whether you use interior liners or packing cubes, or the elastic that just doesn't stretch anymore after a few years, there's always dead space left over. Give me something top loading every time, where I have gravity on my side and can even use compression straps or something to get everything down and tight before closing the top. Similar to a decent top-loading hiking backpack.
Yeah, I'm sensing you are bang on. I honestly haven't used them enough to hate them yet but the few times that i've run to the store to pickup stuff I find it's quite the PITA to remove the bag from the bike, load it up on the ground, close it and reinstall on bike and then have said items bounce around inside until i get home... Of course, I'm coming off of a cruiser that had soft but decent sized leather saddlebags which were used the exact way you describe.. Flip the lid, cram it in and hit the road. I don't see these being useful for anything but longer trips.
Givi E22N cases are top loading and use the Monokey mounting system as well. Then you could keep your existing racks.

Bit on the small side though.
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Givi E22N cases are top loading and use the Monokey mounting system as well. Then you could keep your existing racks.

Bit on the small side though.
Appreciate that - They're not really that expensive really either... This will be my first full season with the bike so I'll see what my needs are this year (long trips, short trips, etc.). So far I've been pretty local backroads/FSR's etc. so i've only used the top case. Not that I really want the big top case on the back when heading up a mountain but I gotta put lunch somewhere. I'll have to see how many grocery runs I do that get me thinkin.

Anyone want to buy these AWESOME, Super handy and useful Givi E36 Side Cases from me? LOL
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You can always buy inexpensive soft bags and strap to the existing racks on Amazon.
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That is the "Auto-Unload" feature! :D

Stuff I will need during the day goes in the top case or tank bag.
Stuff I might need goes in the "high-side" pannier. (Extra water in Nalgenes, thermal clothing)
Stuff I won't need until camp goes into the "low-side" pannier. (Tools, shoes)
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I had those E36 cases since 08. Back then Trader Joes sold a thermal bag that fit near perfect. Easy in and out plus it keeps things cooler on those hot days. Also have the old E21 top loaders. I prefer the clamshells myself. Centerstand helps a lot.
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One other reason I prefer my sideloaders is with the liner bag its easy to just grab the bag to take into my tent or motel room.
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Flip the lid, cram it in and hit the road.
I don't do a lot of longer trips on the bike and so far I've just gotten a (North Face) duffel bag and strapped it on the pillion seat. Easier to bring into the hotel as well, plus it doesn't widen the bike, which is useful if you need to do lane splitting.

If I were to do multi-day camping trips or something, I would probably get some soft bags from Mosko Moto or Enduristan. Not cheap but very well thought-out, extremely durable and waterproof.
I have the similar E360 but recently got a pair E21 top loaders. For everyday commuting the E21 are easier access and a lot narrower but for camping and long trips the E360 just hold so much more. Inside the E360 I use liner/bags to hold my general stuff and like it was mentioned decided which side gets what .
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I'd use one of the rectangular shopping bags or similar for daily use. Try to fashion an elastic strap like it should have had new. I briefly had a Strom with clamshell (had the elastic strap) and they were OK but I prefer the top load.

I'd certainly make peace with them rather than buy others.
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I also use reusable supermarket bags as liners.

Not that robust admitted, but cheap, have carry handles, strong enough and easy to replace. There is some size variation so generally you can get a type that fits well.
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Can't put a helmet in a top load saddlebag.
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If you are considering soft luggage, these guys are worth checking out:


They're out of British Columbia, I saw them at the Toronto motorcycle show in January, and if I hadn't spent all my money on home improvements this year, there would be a set on my bike by now. I was really impressed with the design, and they clip onto just about any racks you have.
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I had those E36 cases since 08. Back then Trader Joes sold a thermal bag that fit near perfect. Easy in and out plus it keeps things cooler on those hot days. Also have the old E21 top loaders. I prefer the clamshells myself. Centerstand helps a lot.
The trader joe bags fit my pelican 1550's perfect, I also put a lanyard on the lid to control how far it opens
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Can't put a helmet in a top load saddlebag.
Or Givi E36. It's not deep enough. One of my small complaints about them.

I did have a Kappa K48 top case, which would hold two helmets if I removed everything else.
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